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Sad Commentary - stanfan - 11-08-2012

It is a sad commentary when we are ranked in the top 15, are playing the 11th ranked Beavers, have a shot at a great bowl....and our head coach has to send out an email begging people to come to the last home game of the year. 

Sad Commentary - stanfan - 11-08-2012

It is a sad commentary when we are ranked in the top 15, are playing the 11th ranked Beavers, have a shot at a great bowl....and our head coach has to send out an email begging people to come to the last home game of the year. 

Re: Sad CommentaryIF WE WERE 9-0, - JohnOlenchalk - 11-08-2012

We'd be hosting GAMEDAY, and be in the BCS hunt.  That's what happens when Stanford plays boring football and loses games it should win...The WSU game was a channel changer, and horrible to sit through live.

Re: Sad CommentaryIF WE WERE 9-0, - JohnOlenchalk - 11-08-2012

We'd be hosting GAMEDAY, and be in the BCS hunt.  That's what happens when Stanford plays boring football and loses games it should win...The WSU game was a channel changer, and horrible to sit through live.

Re: Sad Commentary - Rando - 11-08-2012

Nail biters are not boring.

Re: Sad Commentary - Rando - 11-08-2012

Nail biters are not boring.

Re: Sad Commentary - Rando - 11-08-2012

I guess what Stanford needs is a bunch of dudes like me who work a minimum wage job and have no car but will do no matter what it takes to attend every home game and be rowdy. I wish we had an SEC fan base, we just don't.

Re: Sad Commentary - Rando - 11-08-2012

I guess what Stanford needs is a bunch of dudes like me who work a minimum wage job and have no car but will do no matter what it takes to attend every home game and be rowdy. I wish we had an SEC fan base, we just don't.

Re: Sad Commentary - Roberton3 - 11-08-2012

If you look at the college teams that draw the most fans to their games, they tend to have several things in common:
1) Consistently good teams over a long time (at least a generation, not just a few years)
2) Lots of local alumni
3) No NFL team nearby

I can't think of any college team that really draws a lot of fans and doesn't have at least 2 of those 3 factors.  Stanford has none of them (it's headed toward having #1, but still has a long way to go).

It'd be nice to have better attendance.  Folks in the Bay Area should realize that they're missing out on some really good football.  But the negative spin that some people put on the low attendance (e.g., calling it a " sad commentary" or blaming it on "boring football") seems unwarranted.  Given the hurdles Stanford faces in drawing a good crowd, it's doing pretty well.

Re: Sad Commentary - Roberton3 - 11-08-2012

If you look at the college teams that draw the most fans to their games, they tend to have several things in common:
1) Consistently good teams over a long time (at least a generation, not just a few years)
2) Lots of local alumni
3) No NFL team nearby

I can't think of any college team that really draws a lot of fans and doesn't have at least 2 of those 3 factors.  Stanford has none of them (it's headed toward having #1, but still has a long way to go).

It'd be nice to have better attendance.  Folks in the Bay Area should realize that they're missing out on some really good football.  But the negative spin that some people put on the low attendance (e.g., calling it a " sad commentary" or blaming it on "boring football") seems unwarranted.  Given the hurdles Stanford faces in drawing a good crowd, it's doing pretty well.

Re: Sad CommentaryIF WE WERE 9-0, - 76lsjumb - 11-08-2012

(11-08-2012, 03:32 PM)johnnyo53 link Wrote:We'd be hosting GAMEDAY, and be in the BCS hunt.  That's what happens when Stanford plays boring football and loses games it should win...The WSU game was a channel changer, and horrible to sit through live.

It's Veteran's Day Weekend... GAMEDAY is being hosted by a Navy ship.  Seems reasonable.

And, we ARE in the BCS hunt.

I hope you didn't change channels during the Arizona game...or, for that matter, the ND game.  If it's an exciting game, I'm assuming the NATIONAL Fox audience won't change channels on our game, either.

And, if we win, don't you think GAMEDAY goes to Eugene next week?


Re: Sad CommentaryIF WE WERE 9-0, - 76lsjumb - 11-08-2012

(11-08-2012, 03:32 PM)johnnyo53 link Wrote:We'd be hosting GAMEDAY, and be in the BCS hunt.  That's what happens when Stanford plays boring football and loses games it should win...The WSU game was a channel changer, and horrible to sit through live.

It's Veteran's Day Weekend... GAMEDAY is being hosted by a Navy ship.  Seems reasonable.

And, we ARE in the BCS hunt.

I hope you didn't change channels during the Arizona game...or, for that matter, the ND game.  If it's an exciting game, I'm assuming the NATIONAL Fox audience won't change channels on our game, either.

And, if we win, don't you think GAMEDAY goes to Eugene next week?


Re: Sad Commentary - fullmetal - 11-08-2012

Okay, I looked up a bunch of football schedules.  I would be shocked if Gameday were not hosted in Eugene.  Looks like most of, if not the entire, $EC is on creampuff alert the weekend of the 17th (sorry other schools...), Notre Dame is only playing Wake Forest, and U$C is playing UCLA (ranked#18, but we're a better team and so is Oregon).

We're numerically in the BCS hunt, but it would have helped to have not been mugged by zebras in South Bend or shot in the foot by, erm, decision-making during losing efforts.  Who wouldn't rather be 9-0?

One game at a time.

Re: Sad Commentary - fullmetal - 11-08-2012

Okay, I looked up a bunch of football schedules.  I would be shocked if Gameday were not hosted in Eugene.  Looks like most of, if not the entire, $EC is on creampuff alert the weekend of the 17th (sorry other schools...), Notre Dame is only playing Wake Forest, and U$C is playing UCLA (ranked#18, but we're a better team and so is Oregon).

We're numerically in the BCS hunt, but it would have helped to have not been mugged by zebras in South Bend or shot in the foot by, erm, decision-making during losing efforts.  Who wouldn't rather be 9-0?

One game at a time.

Re: Sad Commentary - Farm93 - 11-08-2012

Stanford could be #1 in the BCS standings and Stanford would STILL have a problem with the crowd for Oregon State.

Oregon State is not a conference game of interest to the Stanford Football community.  It has been that way for decades.  Oregon State also does not travel well.  The folks from Eugene would fill the empty seats in our stadium if they had one loss and were #11 in the BCS.

No need to blame Hogan, Shaw, Skov or the AD for this one.  The reality is Stanford has a very small alumni base, and relatively few Stanford loyalists in the SF Bay Area.  Unlike UCLA, UCB or UW most Stanford students never even considered applying to or attending Oregon State.  Like WSU the OSU it is a throw away game to our ticket holders.  That is bad news for recruiting and keeping the players motivated with a rocking atmosphere, but it is the reality.  9-0 Stanford would be sending out BOGO invites too, and then those that are inclined to criticize would blame Shaw or the AD.

If blame must be assigned, blame the admissions office for only accepting a few thousand students each year.  If the admissions office accepted 20,000 or 30,000 students each year we would have a lot more people in the area that would at least like Stanford on Facebook.

In terms on next week with a Stanford win this weekend,
The best two contests next week would be Stanford vs. Oregon and the UCLA/USC match-up.  Look at the schedule and it is not close.  So I suspect, win or lose this week Eugene becomes the ESPN Gameday site because Stanford represents a possible Ducks upset alert opportunity in a week with very poor match-ups.

Re: Sad Commentary - Farm93 - 11-08-2012

Stanford could be #1 in the BCS standings and Stanford would STILL have a problem with the crowd for Oregon State.

Oregon State is not a conference game of interest to the Stanford Football community.  It has been that way for decades.  Oregon State also does not travel well.  The folks from Eugene would fill the empty seats in our stadium if they had one loss and were #11 in the BCS.

No need to blame Hogan, Shaw, Skov or the AD for this one.  The reality is Stanford has a very small alumni base, and relatively few Stanford loyalists in the SF Bay Area.  Unlike UCLA, UCB or UW most Stanford students never even considered applying to or attending Oregon State.  Like WSU the OSU it is a throw away game to our ticket holders.  That is bad news for recruiting and keeping the players motivated with a rocking atmosphere, but it is the reality.  9-0 Stanford would be sending out BOGO invites too, and then those that are inclined to criticize would blame Shaw or the AD.

If blame must be assigned, blame the admissions office for only accepting a few thousand students each year.  If the admissions office accepted 20,000 or 30,000 students each year we would have a lot more people in the area that would at least like Stanford on Facebook.

In terms on next week with a Stanford win this weekend,
The best two contests next week would be Stanford vs. Oregon and the UCLA/USC match-up.  Look at the schedule and it is not close.  So I suspect, win or lose this week Eugene becomes the ESPN Gameday site because Stanford represents a possible Ducks upset alert opportunity in a week with very poor match-ups.

Re: Sad Commentary - ChicagoCard - 11-08-2012

One key to whether SU-Oregon will be the gameday venue is that ESPN probably has its eye on either SU-Oregon or Oregon-OSU but not both.

As for the way the SEC teams schedule creampuffs at the end, well, the subject of this thread could be the subject of a thread on that. They really need to move to a 9-game schedule of conference games. And I hope that somehow 14 team conferences come to be seen as overgrowth.

Edit: If it were the case that ESPN is looking at either SU-Oregon or Oregon-OSU then I imagine they'd prefer to have gameday in Eugene.

Re: Sad Commentary - ChicagoCard - 11-08-2012

One key to whether SU-Oregon will be the gameday venue is that ESPN probably has its eye on either SU-Oregon or Oregon-OSU but not both.

As for the way the SEC teams schedule creampuffs at the end, well, the subject of this thread could be the subject of a thread on that. They really need to move to a 9-game schedule of conference games. And I hope that somehow 14 team conferences come to be seen as overgrowth.

Edit: If it were the case that ESPN is looking at either SU-Oregon or Oregon-OSU then I imagine they'd prefer to have gameday in Eugene.

Re: Sad Commentary - fullmetal - 11-08-2012

Oklahoma is playing West Virginia at 7PM eastern on the 17th.  Before that, there's Texas Tech vs. Oklahoma State at 3:30PM.  No time posted for Stanford-Oregon.  And really, no other compelling games with ranked opponents stick out to me (Clemson does play NC State).

Re: Sad Commentary - fullmetal - 11-08-2012

Oklahoma is playing West Virginia at 7PM eastern on the 17th.  Before that, there's Texas Tech vs. Oklahoma State at 3:30PM.  No time posted for Stanford-Oregon.  And really, no other compelling games with ranked opponents stick out to me (Clemson does play NC State).