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Re: Andy Brown - StannyBoy - 02-27-2013
i think he's only returning because we didn't land Jabari Parker.
Re: Andy Brown - FarmBoy - 02-27-2013
On Gabe Harris:
Quote:A psychology major, he's considering law school after possibly exploring pro ball overseas.
Is he getting the same career advice as Levine? I know it's every players dream, but those score 2.0 pts per game for a team that's not competitive should probably not even bother with the "exploration".
I think Andy's a great addition to the 2013 team. He's a solid contributor and seems humble enough to know his place on the team.
Re: Andy Brown - washingtonismoney - 02-27-2013
Yeah, there are so many pro leagues that if Harris is sufficiently determined, he'll find (surprisingly well recompensed!) work. It'll be tough sledding to play in the better non-American leagues -- i.e. Spain, Italy, France -- but that's life.
Re: Andy Brown - FarmBoy - 02-27-2013
I'm still finding it hard to believe that there's a lucrative deal out there for someone like Harris. There are hundreds of college players graduating every year, many of whom have no plans for income outside of their sport, competing for spots on teams. Only 60 players will make an NBA roster. Maybe a hundred more to the NBADL. The rest flood the international market which is often capped on how many international players can be on the team (I watched a game in Seoul a few years back and iirc, you could only have 2-3 non Koreans on the court at a time.)
Every time I've watched a game overseas, I've done an internet search on the US players on the court and they always had reasonable strong NCAA careers but just not good enough to make the NBA. I've never seen a player with an NCAA career scoring average below 2 points.
According to eHow.com, the starting salary in Euroleague is about $100K. D-League is less than $60K.
But when you're young, have no student loans to pay, and just looking for adventure and travel, I can see the draw of giving it a go. I can also imagine you end up in some not so attractive places if you're in one of the lower leagues.
Re: Andy Brown - washingtonismoney - 02-27-2013
(02-27-2013, 01:40 PM)FarmBoy link Wrote:I'm still finding it hard to believe that there's a lucrative deal out there for someone like Harris. There are hundreds of college players graduating every year, many of whom have no plans for income outside of their sport, competing for spots on teams. Only 60 players will make an NBA roster. Maybe a hundred more to the NBADL. The rest flood the international market which is often capped on how many international players can be on the team (I watched a game in Seoul a few years back and iirc, you could only have 2-3 non Koreans on the court at a time.)
Every time I've watched a game overseas, I've done an internet search on the US players on the court and they always had reasonable strong NCAA careers but just not good enough to make the NBA. I've never seen a player with an NCAA career scoring average below 2 points.
According to eHow.com, the starting salary in Euroleague is about $100K. D-League is less than $60K.
But when you're young, have no student loans to pay, and just looking for adventure and travel, I can see the draw of giving it a go. I can also imagine you end up in some not so attractive places if you're in one of the lower leagues.
We're ultimately saying the same thing. Yeah, if Harris wants to play he'll have to go to Croatia or Taiwan or something. Yeah, he won't be able to land the really sweet gigs in Spain, Italy, France (which is 200+k net plus free apartment and/or car), barring a shocking development growth spurt. But the opportunity is there if he is sufficiently determined and indifferent as to destination.
Re: Andy Brown - fullmetal - 02-28-2013
Like Jeremy Lin, maybe some of these kids will turn out to be ballers once get get some different coaching and more experience.
Re: Andy Brown - ATLCard - 02-28-2013
Is that a Gabe Harris = Jeremy Lin analogy? Really? You think Lin only turned out to be a baller once he got coaching and experience in the pros? That doesn't sound like the Lin who was all-state in California and led his team to the state championship over Mater Dei. Doesn't sound like the Lin who was all-everything at Harvard (okay that may not mean anything) and put up dominant performances against some top 20 Division 1 teams. A number of people including the owner of the Warriors saw him as a potential NBA player. Lin won and put up numbers wherever he played. Wrong analogy.
Re: Andy Brown - FarmBoy - 02-28-2013
When I watch the team, I don't see a talent deficit. There are definitely ballers on the court. But I see them making the same mistakes (how many times in the last few weeks has Bright picked up his dribble on the sideline and been double teamed to either force a time out or turnover?) or get stagnant on offense (let's pass the ball to Powell on the wing and let him create a shot that's likely to be double teamed!) Coaching isn't going to help a player like Harris rise to elite performance, it's going to help the current starters with shot selection and playing as a team. The way the team continues to lose screams poor coaching. How many come from ahead losses have we had? I again turned in at midnight when the team was up by 1 on at half knowing that when I looked at my phone in the morning, the score would be reversed in Colorado's favor.
I agree with ATL. Jeremy Lin didn't become a star last year because of coaching. He became a star because the Knicks were desperate for a PG after a rash of injuries and needed a stop gap. They rolled the dice with Lin because somebody thought he at least had potential. Coaching had nothing to do with it.
And on that note, the Pac12 needs to get a better TV deal where games can start by 10PM EST. You lose a brobdingnagian portion of your audience when you start at 11pm.