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Barkley on Gruden - Griffins78 - 04-13-2013
Watched Gruden's QB Camp with Matt Barkley. Wow! Gotta see the Kiffen whistle!
Barkley comes across very well and Gruden projects him to be a NFL starter. Sounds like he held that team's roster together in the Carroll, Garrett, Kiffen, sanctions debacle.
But hearing Gruden ask about the Kiffen whistle - where Kiffen whistles to Barkley to try to change the play against Oregon from the sideline just as the ball is about to be snapped which causes a fumble - is hilarious. I really feel sorry for Barkley. And Gruden, who made Spider Y 3 Banana famous by embarrassing AL, now introduces Spider 2 Z Snag and embarrasses Barkley and 'SC.
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Barkley on Gruden - Griffins78 - 04-13-2013
Watched Gruden's QB Camp with Matt Barkley. Wow! Gotta see the Kiffen whistle!
Barkley comes across very well and Gruden projects him to be a NFL starter. Sounds like he held that team's roster together in the Carroll, Garrett, Kiffen, sanctions debacle.
But hearing Gruden ask about the Kiffen whistle - where Kiffen whistles to Barkley to try to change the play against Oregon from the sideline just as the ball is about to be snapped which causes a fumble - is hilarious. I really feel sorry for Barkley. And Gruden, who made Spider Y 3 Banana famous by embarrassing AL, now introduces Spider 2 Z Snag and embarrasses Barkley and 'SC.
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Re: Barkley on Gruden - Cadet84 - 04-13-2013
The cutesy built-in software name changes make this post incomprehensible. Form over function imo
Re: Barkley on Gruden - Cadet84 - 04-13-2013
The cutesy built-in software name changes make this post incomprehensible. Form over function imo
Re: Barkley on Gruden - fullmetal - 04-13-2013
I need to watch this :p
Re: Barkley on Gruden - fullmetal - 04-13-2013
I need to watch this :p
Re: Barkley on Gruden - DC - 04-13-2013
Gruden also over and over again told Barkley to sometimes give up on a play, while showing the play against UCLA when Barkley got his shoulder separation.Â
What was Barkley supposed to do? He got sacked from the blind side and didn't see the guy coming, otherwise he could and would have prepared himself.
Re: Barkley on Gruden - DC - 04-13-2013
Gruden also over and over again told Barkley to sometimes give up on a play, while showing the play against UCLA when Barkley got his shoulder separation.Â
What was Barkley supposed to do? He got sacked from the blind side and didn't see the guy coming, otherwise he could and would have prepared himself.
Re: Barkley on Gruden - Farm93 - 04-13-2013
(04-13-2013, 03:21 PM)DC link Wrote:Gruden also over and over again told Barkley to sometimes give up on a play, while showing the play against UCLA when Barkley got his shoulder separation.ÂThis, I believe, is a new observation about SC QBs. One that Florida QBs had suffered in the past. The emerging premise throughout the NFL is that the SC QBs play on SC teams that are too talented. Their WRs are always open. Their OLs are almost NFL worthy. So the QBs in the SC system get too comfortable and never give up on plays. It works great at SC where they are so safe in the pocket and their WRs will eventually get open. In the NFL that faith in the system sometimes leaves them looking foolish (see Sanchez, Leinart, Palmer, Cassel).
What was Barkley supposed to do? He got sacked from the blind side and didn't see the guy coming, otherwise he could and would have prepared himself.
In many ways Barkley exemplifies the loyalty to the system and possesses the worst physical flaws of the prior SC QBs. If he is to achieve more than the others he will need to recognize failing plays BEFORE the blindside rusher hits. If he can't figure out he is in a loser play right at the snap, he will get blindsided and then benched (or hurt).
Re: Barkley on Gruden - Farm93 - 04-13-2013
(04-13-2013, 03:21 PM)DC link Wrote:Gruden also over and over again told Barkley to sometimes give up on a play, while showing the play against UCLA when Barkley got his shoulder separation.ÂThis, I believe, is a new observation about SC QBs. One that Florida QBs had suffered in the past. The emerging premise throughout the NFL is that the SC QBs play on SC teams that are too talented. Their WRs are always open. Their OLs are almost NFL worthy. So the QBs in the SC system get too comfortable and never give up on plays. It works great at SC where they are so safe in the pocket and their WRs will eventually get open. In the NFL that faith in the system sometimes leaves them looking foolish (see Sanchez, Leinart, Palmer, Cassel).
What was Barkley supposed to do? He got sacked from the blind side and didn't see the guy coming, otherwise he could and would have prepared himself.
In many ways Barkley exemplifies the loyalty to the system and possesses the worst physical flaws of the prior SC QBs. If he is to achieve more than the others he will need to recognize failing plays BEFORE the blindside rusher hits. If he can't figure out he is in a loser play right at the snap, he will get blindsided and then benched (or hurt).
Re: Barkley on Gruden - DC - 04-13-2013
(04-13-2013, 04:03 PM)Farm93 link Wrote:[quote author=DC link=topic=7777.msg61240#msg61240 date=1365891694]This, I believe, is a new observation about SC QBs. One that Florida QBs had suffered in the past. The emerging premise throughout the NFL is that the SC QBs play on SC teams that are too talented. Their WRs are always open. Their OLs are almost NFL worthy. So the QBs in the SC system get too comfortable and never give up on plays. It works great at SC where they are so safe in the pocket and their WRs will eventually get open. In the NFL that faith in the system sometimes leaves them looking foolish (see Sanchez, Leinart, Palmer, Cassel).
Gruden also over and over again told Barkley to sometimes give up on a play, while showing the play against UCLA when Barkley got his shoulder separation.Â
What was Barkley supposed to do? He got sacked from the blind side and didn't see the guy coming, otherwise he could and would have prepared himself.
In many ways Barkley exemplifies the loyalty to the system and possesses the worst physical flaws of the prior SC QBs. If he is to achieve more than the others he will need to recognize failing plays BEFORE the blindside rusher hits. If he can't figure out he is in a loser play right at the snap, he will get blindsided and then benched (or hurt).
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Looks like Andrew Luck had to adapt pretty quickly. Hopefully his the new free agents they signed and draft will improve his OL so he will have some longevity. I still cringe at the publicized hit he took because his RT Winston Justice (USC) decided not to bother blocking his man.
Re: Barkley on Gruden - DC - 04-13-2013
(04-13-2013, 04:03 PM)Farm93 link Wrote:[quote author=DC link=topic=7777.msg61240#msg61240 date=1365891694]This, I believe, is a new observation about SC QBs. One that Florida QBs had suffered in the past. The emerging premise throughout the NFL is that the SC QBs play on SC teams that are too talented. Their WRs are always open. Their OLs are almost NFL worthy. So the QBs in the SC system get too comfortable and never give up on plays. It works great at SC where they are so safe in the pocket and their WRs will eventually get open. In the NFL that faith in the system sometimes leaves them looking foolish (see Sanchez, Leinart, Palmer, Cassel).
Gruden also over and over again told Barkley to sometimes give up on a play, while showing the play against UCLA when Barkley got his shoulder separation.Â
What was Barkley supposed to do? He got sacked from the blind side and didn't see the guy coming, otherwise he could and would have prepared himself.
In many ways Barkley exemplifies the loyalty to the system and possesses the worst physical flaws of the prior SC QBs. If he is to achieve more than the others he will need to recognize failing plays BEFORE the blindside rusher hits. If he can't figure out he is in a loser play right at the snap, he will get blindsided and then benched (or hurt).
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Looks like Andrew Luck had to adapt pretty quickly. Hopefully his the new free agents they signed and draft will improve his OL so he will have some longevity. I still cringe at the publicized hit he took because his RT Winston Justice (USC) decided not to bother blocking his man.