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I hope Jordan Zumwalt is happy - yvonne - 10-09-2010

;D

Re: I hope Jordan Zumwalt is happy - fullmetal - 10-09-2010

:P ::) ;D

Sic semper those who put their trust in Rick Neuweasel.

Re: I hope Jordan Zumwalt is happy - stanfan - 10-10-2010

You can add Mr. Jones to that list.  Slick Rick seduced both those young men.

Re: I hope Jordan Zumwalt is happy - fullmetal - 10-10-2010

Zumwalt may have had an excuse with the family angle (that was it, wasn\'t it?)...but I sure hope it was worth it for him.

Re: I hope Jordan Zumwalt is happy - CowboyIndian - 10-10-2010

I think it was the girlfriend angle.

Re: I hope Jordan Zumwalt is happy - readarmy1976 - 10-10-2010

guys don\'t pick UCLA for championship football. Even kiffin has said as much. It\'s too good a party school to ever have a hungry, disciplined football team. How much will to win do you have after spending the entire week drunk humping in a hot tub?

Re: I hope Jordan Zumwalt is happy - washingtonismoney - 10-10-2010

If guys pick UCLA for championship basketball, why not football? There\'s really no good reason UCLA is as consistently mediocre as it is.

Silly rabbit,  the answer is no mystery - Redrum - 10-10-2010

"If guys pick UCLA for championship basketball, why not football? There\'s really no good reason UCLA is as consistently mediocre as it is. "

Perhaps this simple diagram (Courtesy of Ancestery.com) will clarify it for you.


Karl Marx-----
                   l-----Kal Berkeley-----
Satan --------                                 l-----"Weenies Lite" Los Angeles
                          Groucho Marx------                                

Re: I hope Jordan Zumwalt is happy - readarmy1976 - 10-10-2010

limitless sunshine, booze, chicks, parties, and you\'re in the middle of a noisy, distracting city. i think they can sequester the basketball team more since they play so many more games in basketball. still, UCLA has not been a basketball juggernaut for some time now.

Re: I hope Jordan Zumwalt is happy - washingtonismoney - 10-10-2010

Uh, UCLA made three straight Final Fours from 2006-8; I think they still know a certain something about producing great basketball teams there. (The 2007-8 edition with the Love/Mbah a Moute/Shipp/Collison/Westbrook was one of the great college basketball teams I\'ve ever seen...and we should have had the Pac-10 title that year.)

As to football: I\'m pretty sure the Trojans know how to party, and partying is pretty common among football players everywhere, with perhaps the exception of Pullman, WA and Corvallis, OR, where presumably they have rousing games of Parcheesi as their extracirricular activities. So the "partying" explanation is less than convincing for me. (What is is a serial record of hiring bad-to-mediocre coaches, which must surely change at some point.)

BINGO!  Extend Neuheisel contract now! - Redrum - 10-10-2010

Dick Vermeil \'74-\'75 is to UCLA what Ralston is to us.  Pretty good and pretty far away in time.  Actually,  Terry Donahue fits the Ralston mold better,  which would make Vermeil UCLA\'s  "Walsh 1".

After that:  Bob Toledo,  Karl Dorrell.  Both with overall winning records but UCLA  kept looking for somebody new to be the next mediocre coach.   Washington is right.  Stop the potential improvement cycle.  Extend Neuheisel.  Heck,even give him a raise.

HOLD ON!  THIS JUST IN!  THIS WHOLE MEDIOCRITY THING GOES MUCH DEEPER THAN WE KNOW.

Bob Toledo,  ex UCLA coach and accused mediocritist moved his head coach show to....wait for it.....Tulane!   Where he put together a 3-year 9-27  joyfest before getting canned.  

Meanwhile,  Karl Dorrell,  always a bridesmaid,  was interviewed for HC jobs, then OC jobs,  then assistant jobs.  He is currently an assistant coach with.....wait for it.... the Miami Dolphins.

Re: I hope Jordan Zumwalt is happy - readarmy1976 - 10-10-2010

OK, that shows how closely I follow college basketball. But like I said, the basketball team is much more sequestered with 4 times as many games (travel, hotels, etc) and 1/4 the players. Plus, I\'m just parroting Lane Kiffin here who was saying, "we know right away who the SC kids are and who the UCLA kids are." I don\'t think the kids who pick UCLA have a football championship at the top of their list.

Yeah there are other party schools, but come on it\'s a big state school in the middle of LA. It\'s difficult to make a turkey sandwich in that environment, let alone learn a playbook. I personally love UCLA and westwood, so this is not a knock, just a theory as to why they\'re never good at football despite all that talent.

Penn State is a total party school, but it\'s cold and in the middle of nowhere so it\'s better for work. I don\'t know much about SC campus life, but it\'s a smaller, private institution as far as I know. different vibe than a state school campus. UCLA is like walking into one of those Van Wilder movies.




Quote:Uh, UCLA made three straight Final Fours from 2006-8; I think they still know a certain something about producing great basketball teams there. (The 2007-8 edition with the Love/Mbah a Moute/Shipp/Collison/Westbrook was one of the great college basketball teams I\'ve ever seen...and we should have had the Pac-10 title that year.)

As to football: I\'m pretty sure the Trojans know how to party, and partying is pretty common among football players everywhere, with perhaps the exception of Pullman, WA and Corvallis, OR, where presumably they have rousing games of Parcheesi as their extracirricular activities. So the "partying" explanation is less than convincing for me. (What is is a serial record of hiring bad-to-mediocre coaches, which must surely change at some point.)


Re: I hope Jordan Zumwalt is happy - washingtonismoney - 10-10-2010

By the way, want a fun little postscript to the Neuheisel hiring decision? Guess who one of the other candidates was? John Harbaugh. Imagine those postgame handshakes.

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/dec/21/sports/sp-uclarep21