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AP/Coaches/Harris POLLS: #4/4/4 Michigan St, #5/7/5 Stanford. - TreeFitty - 12-08-2013
Rank Team Record Votes Previous
1 Florida State (56) 13-0 1,496 1
2 Auburn (4) 12-1 1,444 3
3 Alabama 11-1 1,376 4
4 Michigan State 12-1 1,278 10
5 Stanford 11-2 1,217 7
6 Baylor 11-1 1,185 9
7 Ohio State 12-1 1,130 2
8 South Carolina 10-2 1,099 8
9 Missouri 11-2 1,066 5
10 Oregon 10-2 880 12
11 Oklahoma 10-2 878 18
12 Clemson 10-2 848 13
13 Oklahoma State 10-2 797 6
14 LSU 9-3 726 14
15 UCF 11-1 629 15
16 Arizona State 10-3 614 11
17 UCLA 9-3 544 17
18 Louisville 11-1 525 19
19 Wisconsin 9-3 383 21
20 Texas A&M 8-4 282 22
21 Fresno State 11-1 227 24
22 Duke 10-3 201 20
23 Georgia 8-4 196 25
24 Northern Illinois 12-1 144 16
25 Notre Dame 8-4 76 NR
Others Receiving Votes: USC74, Iowa48, Miami (FL)47, Vanderbilt25, Texas22, Cincinnati11, Bowling Green10, Washington9, Rice7, North Dakota State4, Minnesota2
Coaches:
1 Florida State Seminoles 13-0 1550 62 1 1/12
2 Auburn Tigers 12-1 1486 0 3 1 2/NR
3 Alabama Crimson Tide 11-1 1414 0 4 1 1/4
4 Michigan State Spartans 12-1 1342 0 9 5 4/NR
5 Baylor Bears 11-1 1275 0 7 2 4/NR
6 Ohio State Buckeyes 12-1 1211 0 2 4 2/6
7 Stanford Cardinal 11-2 1188 0 10 3 4/13
8 South Carolina Gamecocks 10-2 1108 0 7 1 6/20
9 Missouri Tigers 11-2 1088 0 5 4 5/NR
10 Oklahoma Sooners 10-2 913 0 15 5 8/18
11 Clemson Tigers 10-2 899 0 11 4/11
12 Oregon Ducks 10-2 887 0 12 2/12
13 Oklahoma State Cowboys 10-2 845 0 6 7 6/20
14 LSU Tigers 9-3 719 0 14 6/19
15 Central Florida Knights 11-1 658 0 17 2 15/NR
16 Louisville Cardinals 11-1 611 0 16 6/17
17 Arizona State Sun Devils 10-3 602 0 13 4 13/NR
18 UCLA Bruins 9-3 520 0 19 1 10/22
19 Wisconsin Badgers 9-3 408 0 21 2 14/NR
20 Fresno State Bulldogs 11-1 344 0 22 2 13/NR
21 Duke Blue Devils 10-3 247 0 20 1 20/NR
21 Texas A&M Aggies 8-4 247 0 25 4 6/25
23 Northern Illinois Huskies 12-1 149 0 18 5 18/NR
24 Georgia Bulldogs 8-4 135 0 NR 5/NR
25 Miami Hurricanes 9-3 73 0 NR 6/NR
Re: AP POLL: #4 Michigan State, #5 Stanford - washingtonismoney - 12-08-2013
No offense to our Sparty visitors, but I think Stanford should be ranked above them. Obviously we'll get the chance to show it on the field, so I'm not terribly exercised.
Re: AP POLL: #4 Michigan State, #5 Stanford - stupac2 - 12-08-2013
(12-08-2013, 10:18 AM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:No offense to our Sparty visitors, but I think Stanford should be ranked above them. Obviously we'll get the chance to show it on the field, so I'm not terribly exercised.
I hope we're ranked below them. Yet more disrespect. I was just checking the FEI, and while it hasn't even been updated to LAST week, we're ranked well ahead of MSU in every facet of the game. We're a better team and we should beat them. If no one else thinks that, then awesome, we get to add that "we're being slighted" edge that works so well for us.
Re: AP POLL: #4 Michigan St, #5 Stanford. COACHES POLL: #4 Michigan St, #7 Stanford - Farm93 - 12-08-2013
I have no problem with the idea that Michigan State is ranked in the top 5. Good for them. The winner of the game will definitely finish in the top 5 and the loser could stay in the top 10. So that's great too.
It is so hard to predict how teams will change over the next ~4 weeks, but I like the idea that Stanford is getting a quality opponent. Getting that Rose Bowl win in my lifetime meant I liked the idea of mediocre Wisconsin for RB2013, but like the idea of a high stakes RB2014 now that I have seen Stanford win at least one Rose Bowl.
Re: AP POLL: #4 Michigan St, #5 Stanford. COACHES POLL: #4 Michigan St, #7 Stanford - Hank 91 - 12-08-2013
Also note that Stanford is 5-0 against this top 25. Aside from that, these polls don't mean much, except that a win would put the Cardinal firmly in the top five, possibly as high as #2 (if Florida State wins decisively and Alabama loses).
Re: AP/Coaches/Harris POLLS: #4/4/4 Michigan St, #5/7/5 Stanford. - TreeFitty - 12-08-2013
Harris poll: #4 MSU, #5 Stanford.
Expect BCS rankings to be the same.
Re: AP/Coaches/Harris POLLS: #4/4/4 Michigan St, #5/7/5 Stanford. - Gauss - 12-08-2013
And here you have how each coach voted
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/ballots/
This is how the Pac-12 coaches rank Stanford
Leach, WSU: #3
Helfrich, Oregon: #4
Rodriguez, Arizona: #4
Wittingham, Utah: #5
Graham, ASU: #6
Riley, OSU: #7
Also,
Miles, LSU: #4
Kelly, ND: #5
Dantonio, Michigan St: #7
Petersen, Boise St: #7
Meyer, Ohio St: #8
Saban, Alabama: #9
Re: AP/Coaches/Harris POLLS: #4/4/4 Michigan St, #5/7/5 Stanford. - 76lsjumb - 12-08-2013
(12-08-2013, 01:34 PM)Gauss link Wrote:And here you have how each coach voted
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/ballots/
This is how the Pac-12 coaches rank Stanford
Leach, WSU: #3
Helfrich, Oregon: #4
Rodriguez, Arizona: #4
Wittingham, Utah: #5
Graham, ASU: #6
Riley, OSU: #7
Also,
Miles, LSU: #4
Kelly, ND: #5
Dantonio, Michigan St: #7
Petersen, Boise St: #7
Meyer, Ohio St: #8
Saban, Alabama: #9
Apparently, Nick Saban is still ticked from that Sun Bowl thrashing...
Re: AP/Coaches/Harris POLLS: #4/4/4 Michigan St, #5/7/5 Stanford. - 82 Card - 12-08-2013
Dantonio ranks his own team (MSU) #2 while ranking Stanford #7. Sometimes we get a player bragging before the game (DAT comes to mind). I can't remember a coach doing so.
Re: AP/Coaches/Harris POLLS: #4/4/4 Michigan St, #5/7/5 Stanford. - Roberton3 - 12-08-2013
(12-08-2013, 02:51 PM)garvin link Wrote:Funny how the biased media types rank us higher than the rigorously scientific coaches.
And both groups rank us lower than the computers do.
Re: AP/Coaches/Harris POLLS: #4/4/4 Michigan St, #5/7/5 Stanford. - stupac2 - 12-08-2013
And the BCS standings, as expected, are MSU #4, Stanford #5. There's a pretty good amount of distance between us, 0.8600 vs 0.8191.
Re: AP/Coaches/Harris POLLS: #4/4/4 Michigan St, #5/7/5 Stanford. - OutsiderFan - 12-08-2013
David Shaw sure was smart to give up his coaches poll vote. Now Dantonio is on record with where he ranks his team and his opponent. Nobody will ever know what David Shaw thinks.
As a lawyer friend once told me:Â You can never get in trouble for saying things you don't say.
Stanford now has more chip on shoulder feeding fodder, straight from the head coach of the team they are playing in the Rose Bowl.
Re: AP/Coaches/Harris POLLS: #4/4/4 Michigan St, #5/7/5 Stanford. - 76lsjumb - 12-08-2013
(12-08-2013, 07:31 PM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:Â Nobody will ever know what David Shaw thinks.
I dunno. From his various press quotes over the course of the season, I'm pretty sure that Shaw thinks were #1 [if we play like we're capable of playing] and he couldn't care less about the other team's ranking.
At least, that what he seems to suggest, week in and week out, win or lose. And I, for one, have no problem with that attitude [...especially if he wants to keep it to himself].
Re: AP/Coaches/Harris POLLS: #4/4/4 Michigan St, #5/7/5 Stanford. - 82 Card - 12-08-2013
According to ESPN, the opening betting line has Stanford as a 6 point favorite. This would be consistent with Sagarin Predictor ratings. ESPN panel chose stanford 3-1. The exception was the shorthaird skinny young guy. I don't usually watch these people so I don't know the name.
Re: AP/Coaches/Harris POLLS: #4/4/4 Michigan St, #5/7/5 Stanford. - stupac2 - 12-08-2013
(12-08-2013, 09:03 PM)82 Card link Wrote:According to ESPN, the opening betting line has Stanford as a 6 point favorite. This would be consistent with Sagarin Predictor ratings. ESPN panel chose stanford 3-1. The exception was the shorthaird skinny young guy. I don't usually watch these people so I don't know the name.
That feels about right to me.
Re: AP/Coaches/Harris POLLS: #4/4/4 Michigan St, #5/7/5 Stanford. - CowboyIndian - 12-08-2013
(12-08-2013, 09:03 PM)82 Card link Wrote:The exception was the shorthaird skinny young guy. I don't usually watch these people so I don't know the name.I didn't see it but if I had to guess....David "Douchebag" Pollack, $EC apologist extraordinaire, badmouthing Stanford at every opportunity. Just another haircut.
Re: AP/Coaches/Harris POLLS: #4/4/4 Michigan St, #5/7/5 Stanford. - estephan500 - 12-09-2013
Before the Pac-12 CG, when I saw that we were an underdog against ASU, I got a cozy feeling.
Re: AP/Coaches/Harris POLLS: #4/4/4 Michigan St, #5/7/5 Stanford. - Leftcoast - 12-09-2013
Stanford is the highest ranked two loss team so perhaps this "no respect" tune is overplayed. If we want a higher ranking then don't lose to Utah.
Re: AP/Coaches/Harris POLLS: #4/4/4 Michigan St, #5/7/5 Stanford. - ChicagoCard - 12-10-2013
Clemson coach Dabo Swinney's poll voting called out by Every Day Should Be Saturday blog (here)...