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WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - 81alum - 01-10-2014

Overview:
Chiney shot jumpers from all over the court, including her first trey of the season, to score 30 points, and Amber made a return to offensive form with 14 points made off of two treys and several lighting fast darts to the basket.

Flow of the game
The flow of the game was all Stanford.  There was not much of a horse race to call.    The usual starters started, but nearly everyone eventually got to play.  Stanford got out in front rapidly by making four shots in a row.  Sara James hit a couple of treys, and Ruef began to hit uncontested midrange jumpers that (uncharacteristically) swished all net, and Chiney rapidly established that she would take and hit jumpers.  The lead stretched to the 20-30 range when Utah star Plouffe got into foul trouble, and bounced around the 20s for the rest of the game.  Lili took a nasty elbow to the face and had to ice her jaw, but did come back into the game, so I was relieved that there seems not to have been a serious injury.

Utah has a history of holding the Stanford offense down, probably because they usually have good posts who can keep Chiney somewhat in check.  But this year Chiney was shooting unmolested jumpers and usually making them (13/17), which completely threw the Utah defense for a loop.  To add to that problem, we also were 8/14 from three point range.  If this torrid three point shooting keeps up we will be unstoppable anywhere this side of Connecticut.  But I keep reminding myself that shooting treys is streaky--even for whole teams.

The offense really seemed to click, passing was crisp.  There were 23 assists on 35 made baskets.  A few of the other baskets were probably Amber going coast-to-coast.  11 players scored.  All in all, a very satisfying offensive performance.

Performances
Chiney is still on pace to break the all-time record for points at Stanford by adding this  30 point performance.  Amber dished out 6 assists to 0 turnovers.  She has become a very reliable ball handler. Ruef's jumper just looked great, and she snagged a career high 14 rebounds. 

But here is a strange and somewhat disturbing stat:  we made 57% of our three point shots but only 53% of our free throws.  This is turning into what may be the worst free throw shooting season in our history.  At 63.8% Stanford is ranked #286 in the nation in team free throw%.  Last year we were 71.8% and ranked 88th.  Two years ago we were 76.2 and ranked 15th.

Brianna Roberson played 10 minutes and does look very fast.  Tess got a basket--points 5 and 6 on her season.  Karlie had an amazing steal that she plucked out of the upraised hands of a Utah player. 

Of some concern--I did not see Erica McCall.  I wonder if she is OK and if she made the trip.  Kailee Johnson picked up 4 fouls in 16 minutes of play.  Our frosh bigs seem to be having problems adjusting to the college level on defense.  Chiney did, too, as I recall, and fouled out a few times her first year.

Parting thoughts
This was almost too easy.  The game at Colorado on Sunday may be the most difficult Pac12 game we will play this season.  Colorado is playing quite well and is in its own house--and there won't be a return visit to Maples.  Setting that aside, though, this was one of the most complete offensive games we have played, and I think we are beginning to see the team jell around the scheme and execute with confidence.  Now, just make those free throws!

WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - 81alum - 01-10-2014

Overview:
Chiney shot jumpers from all over the court, including her first trey of the season, to score 30 points, and Amber made a return to offensive form with 14 points made off of two treys and several lighting fast darts to the basket.

Flow of the game
The flow of the game was all Stanford.  There was not much of a horse race to call.    The usual starters started, but nearly everyone eventually got to play.  Stanford got out in front rapidly by making four shots in a row.  Sara James hit a couple of treys, and Ruef began to hit uncontested midrange jumpers that (uncharacteristically) swished all net, and Chiney rapidly established that she would take and hit jumpers.  The lead stretched to the 20-30 range when Utah star Plouffe got into foul trouble, and bounced around the 20s for the rest of the game.  Lili took a nasty elbow to the face and had to ice her jaw, but did come back into the game, so I was relieved that there seems not to have been a serious injury.

Utah has a history of holding the Stanford offense down, probably because they usually have good posts who can keep Chiney somewhat in check.  But this year Chiney was shooting unmolested jumpers and usually making them (13/17), which completely threw the Utah defense for a loop.  To add to that problem, we also were 8/14 from three point range.  If this torrid three point shooting keeps up we will be unstoppable anywhere this side of Connecticut.  But I keep reminding myself that shooting treys is streaky--even for whole teams.

The offense really seemed to click, passing was crisp.  There were 23 assists on 35 made baskets.  A few of the other baskets were probably Amber going coast-to-coast.  11 players scored.  All in all, a very satisfying offensive performance.

Performances
Chiney is still on pace to break the all-time record for points at Stanford by adding this  30 point performance.  Amber dished out 6 assists to 0 turnovers.  She has become a very reliable ball handler. Ruef's jumper just looked great, and she snagged a career high 14 rebounds. 

But here is a strange and somewhat disturbing stat:  we made 57% of our three point shots but only 53% of our free throws.  This is turning into what may be the worst free throw shooting season in our history.  At 63.8% Stanford is ranked #286 in the nation in team free throw%.  Last year we were 71.8% and ranked 88th.  Two years ago we were 76.2 and ranked 15th.

Brianna Roberson played 10 minutes and does look very fast.  Tess got a basket--points 5 and 6 on her season.  Karlie had an amazing steal that she plucked out of the upraised hands of a Utah player. 

Of some concern--I did not see Erica McCall.  I wonder if she is OK and if she made the trip.  Kailee Johnson picked up 4 fouls in 16 minutes of play.  Our frosh bigs seem to be having problems adjusting to the college level on defense.  Chiney did, too, as I recall, and fouled out a few times her first year.

Parting thoughts
This was almost too easy.  The game at Colorado on Sunday may be the most difficult Pac12 game we will play this season.  Colorado is playing quite well and is in its own house--and there won't be a return visit to Maples.  Setting that aside, though, this was one of the most complete offensive games we have played, and I think we are beginning to see the team jell around the scheme and execute with confidence.  Now, just make those free throws!

Re: WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - Jskass - 01-10-2014

Erica McCall tweeted that she is okay and will be at the next game.

Re: WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - Jskass - 01-10-2014

Erica McCall tweeted that she is okay and will be at the next game.

Re: WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - CompSci87 - 01-10-2014

Taylor played only a couple of minutes. Announcers said she had an upset stomach before the game. Hope there isn't a stomach flu virus going around.

Re: WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - CompSci87 - 01-10-2014

Taylor played only a couple of minutes. Announcers said she had an upset stomach before the game. Hope there isn't a stomach flu virus going around.

Re: WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - M T - 01-11-2014

Stanford continues to look good.  Lots of players are gaining valuable time on the floor.  Like 81alum, I am concerned about the continuation of three point success.  I'd welcome any good explanation for our recent success (for instance, Stanford quit practicing free throws and instead practices 3 pointers).

From what Ros indicated, it sounds like Tara is actively defending against the most likely chance for Stanford to get defeated:  illness.

Regarding our next opponent, and one ugly incident:

Cal beat Colorado (Stanford's opponent on Sunday) on Friday in a close game.  Among typical performances turned in was Melissa Barlow who ignored a bean ball thrown by Gray at the head of an Colorado player that would have gotten a pitcher ejected, and then made two poor calls, in favor of Kal, in the last 2 minutes, as they streaked back from down 10 with 4 minutes to go.  It helps to have calls go your way.

With 8:24 left in the second half, there was a contested rebound from which Reshanda Gray came away with the ball.  She was a bit out of control but not within 5 feet of going out of bounds (she was well within the 3 point line).  In the replays, you can see her looking at the opponent's face, raise the ball behind her ear and throw it with a full extension of her arm (releasing the ball no more than 2' from the opponent's face) directly at the opponent, striking her in the face.  The ball bounces off the player's face, hits out of bounds about 10' away and then bounces over the Colorado bench.

In my opinion, this was not a basketball play, but was a combative strike, and she should have been charged with a Flagrant 2 contact technical foul, ejected, and suspended.  I think the PAC-12 should review this play as to whether it was a combative strike (ie, a "fight").  I won't be holding my breath for them to do what is right.  I think they'd rather protect their image than protect players.

Kudos to Colorado's Jamee Swan who started to react to the bean ball at her face.  She clinched her fists and started to lift her shoulders as if to respond in a fighting stance, but she obviously thought better of it and walked away.  She certainly had more class than Barlow and way more than Gray.

I rather doubt Colorado will do well against Stanford.  They got beaten up tonight (literally) and will likely will still be bruised & battered on Sunday.  #12 (re)injured an heavily bandaged right shoulder.  She did come back in but it appeared she couldn't lift that arm at all.  My guess is that it is loose in its socket & came out of the socket again.  #11 took a fall and didn't get up for 30 seconds or so.

When I look at Colorado's personnel & stats, no one stands out. (They do have a 6'4" senior, who plays less than 20 minutes/game.)  When I look at their 11-3 record, nothing stands out to me (yet their RPI is rated #20 before the Kal game with their best win being against RPI-rated #28 Iowa).

Quote:Section 26. Fighting
Art. 2. A fight is a confrontation involving one or more players, coaches or other
team personnel wherein (but not limited to) a fist, hand, arm, foot, knee or leg is
used to combatively strike the other individual.

Fight-Reporting Procedures
When a fight is not reported by an
official, the conference or assigning authority may invoke its own penalty.

Section 7. Suspensions for Fighting
Art. 2. The first time an individual participates in a fight during the season
(including exhibition games), the individual shall be suspended from participating
in the team’s next regular-season game (not an exhibition contest), including
tournament competition.
(italics are mine;  bold is from the 2012 & 2013 NCAA rules)


Re: WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - M T - 01-11-2014

Stanford continues to look good.  Lots of players are gaining valuable time on the floor.  Like 81alum, I am concerned about the continuation of three point success.  I'd welcome any good explanation for our recent success (for instance, Stanford quit practicing free throws and instead practices 3 pointers).

From what Ros indicated, it sounds like Tara is actively defending against the most likely chance for Stanford to get defeated:  illness.

Regarding our next opponent, and one ugly incident:

Cal beat Colorado (Stanford's opponent on Sunday) on Friday in a close game.  Among typical performances turned in was Melissa Barlow who ignored a bean ball thrown by Gray at the head of an Colorado player that would have gotten a pitcher ejected, and then made two poor calls, in favor of Kal, in the last 2 minutes, as they streaked back from down 10 with 4 minutes to go.  It helps to have calls go your way.

With 8:24 left in the second half, there was a contested rebound from which Reshanda Gray came away with the ball.  She was a bit out of control but not within 5 feet of going out of bounds (she was well within the 3 point line).  In the replays, you can see her looking at the opponent's face, raise the ball behind her ear and throw it with a full extension of her arm (releasing the ball no more than 2' from the opponent's face) directly at the opponent, striking her in the face.  The ball bounces off the player's face, hits out of bounds about 10' away and then bounces over the Colorado bench.

In my opinion, this was not a basketball play, but was a combative strike, and she should have been charged with a Flagrant 2 contact technical foul, ejected, and suspended.  I think the PAC-12 should review this play as to whether it was a combative strike (ie, a "fight").  I won't be holding my breath for them to do what is right.  I think they'd rather protect their image than protect players.

Kudos to Colorado's Jamee Swan who started to react to the bean ball at her face.  She clinched her fists and started to lift her shoulders as if to respond in a fighting stance, but she obviously thought better of it and walked away.  She certainly had more class than Barlow and way more than Gray.

I rather doubt Colorado will do well against Stanford.  They got beaten up tonight (literally) and will likely will still be bruised & battered on Sunday.  #12 (re)injured an heavily bandaged right shoulder.  She did come back in but it appeared she couldn't lift that arm at all.  My guess is that it is loose in its socket & came out of the socket again.  #11 took a fall and didn't get up for 30 seconds or so.

When I look at Colorado's personnel & stats, no one stands out. (They do have a 6'4" senior, who plays less than 20 minutes/game.)  When I look at their 11-3 record, nothing stands out to me (yet their RPI is rated #20 before the Kal game with their best win being against RPI-rated #28 Iowa).

Quote:Section 26. Fighting
Art. 2. A fight is a confrontation involving one or more players, coaches or other
team personnel wherein (but not limited to) a fist, hand, arm, foot, knee or leg is
used to combatively strike the other individual.

Fight-Reporting Procedures
When a fight is not reported by an
official, the conference or assigning authority may invoke its own penalty.

Section 7. Suspensions for Fighting
Art. 2. The first time an individual participates in a fight during the season
(including exhibition games), the individual shall be suspended from participating
in the team’s next regular-season game (not an exhibition contest), including
tournament competition.
(italics are mine;  bold is from the 2012 & 2013 NCAA rules)


Re: WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - yvonne - 01-11-2014

You need to send your comments to Violet Palmer Coordinator of Women's Basketball Officiating at the Pac-12. The format for Pac-12 emails is first initial last name @pac12.org.


Re: WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - yvonne - 01-11-2014

You need to send your comments to Violet Palmer Coordinator of Women's Basketball Officiating at the Pac-12. The format for Pac-12 emails is first initial last name @pac12.org.


Re: WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - washingtonismoney - 01-11-2014

(01-11-2014, 11:24 AM)Yvonne link Wrote:Violet Palmer

Wait, they hired her?!?!??!? She was a notoriously bad ref in the NBA.

Re: WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - washingtonismoney - 01-11-2014

(01-11-2014, 11:24 AM)Yvonne link Wrote:Violet Palmer

Wait, they hired her?!?!??!? She was a notoriously bad ref in the NBA.

Re: WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - yvonne - 01-11-2014

http://pac-12.com/content/staff-directory

Re: WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - yvonne - 01-11-2014

http://pac-12.com/content/staff-directory

Re: WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - triangle2 - 01-12-2014

As a transplanted Stanford fan in Seattle, I still haven't gotten over Violet Palmer calling a phantom midcourt foul on UW's Elise Niemela to give USC three foul shots to win at the buzzer at UW in 97.  I'm pretty sure Elise hasn't gotten over that call either.

The fact that Palmer got an invite to the NBA and now people think she's qualified to supervise officials is another reason why watching officiating in Pac-12 women's basketball is like being transplanted into a dystopian universe...

Re: WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - triangle2 - 01-12-2014

As a transplanted Stanford fan in Seattle, I still haven't gotten over Violet Palmer calling a phantom midcourt foul on UW's Elise Niemela to give USC three foul shots to win at the buzzer at UW in 97.  I'm pretty sure Elise hasn't gotten over that call either.

The fact that Palmer got an invite to the NBA and now people think she's qualified to supervise officials is another reason why watching officiating in Pac-12 women's basketball is like being transplanted into a dystopian universe...

Re: WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - M T - 01-13-2014

(01-11-2014, 11:24 AM)Yvonne link Wrote:You need to send your comments to Violet Palmer Coordinator of Women's Basketball Officiating at the Pac-12. The format for Pac-12 emails is first initial last name @pac12.org.
Slight correction.  The email address is  @pac-12.org



Re: WBB: Stanford 87 Utah 61 - M T - 01-13-2014

(01-11-2014, 11:24 AM)Yvonne link Wrote:You need to send your comments to Violet Palmer Coordinator of Women's Basketball Officiating at the Pac-12. The format for Pac-12 emails is first initial last name @pac12.org.
Slight correction.  The email address is  @pac-12.org