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30 for 30 Richard Sherman - pauloalto - 02-02-2014


http://www.youtube.com/v/WwMONEPz4yA


very funny

Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - BostonCard - 02-02-2014

Nice.  Whoever played Ron Jaworsky was brilliant.

BC

"What if I told you that everything I just told you... - Redrum - 02-02-2014

...was something somebody else told me?"

Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - pauloalto - 02-02-2014

(02-02-2014, 07:26 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:Nice.  Whoever played Ron Jaworsky was brilliant.

BC


Comedian Frank Caliendo played all of them

Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - StanFan88 - 02-02-2014

Awesome.  Funnier than the Doritos ad.

Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - WAcard - 02-03-2014

No Bob Dylan fans "whats more American than America"

Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - stupac2 - 02-03-2014

(02-03-2014, 11:33 AM)WAcard link Wrote:No Bob Dylan fans "whats more American than America"

The part where he said "Let Germany make your beer" was infuriating enough to outweigh the rest of the commercial, were I into that kind of sentimental crap. (Plus that was basically the same commercial that they did before, but with Dylan instead of Eminem.)

Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - 97fan - 02-03-2014

(02-03-2014, 12:06 PM)stupac2 link Wrote:[quote author=WAcard link=topic=9499.msg83123#msg83123 date=1391452395]
No Bob Dylan fans "whats more American than America"

The part where he said "Let Germany make your beer" was infuriating enough to outweigh the rest of the commercial, were I into that kind of sentimental crap. (Plus that was basically the same commercial that they did before, but with Dylan instead of Eminem.)
[/quote]

This is exactly the response Dylan was hoping for. But at this point, appearing in TV commercials as a way to confound and annoy his fans is a bit of an old trick. The Victoria's Secret ad a few years back got a bigger reaction out of people.

Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - WAcard - 02-03-2014

:-\ I was actually surprised you could understand him  :D

Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - Bruce Wang - 02-03-2014

(02-03-2014, 12:06 PM)stupac2 link Wrote:The part where he said "Let Germany make your beer" was infuriating enough to outweigh the rest of the commercial

We make great beer in America.  Let the Germans make the cars.

Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - Griffins78 - 02-04-2014

Hilarious. ...Dijon Sanders

Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - washingtonismoney - 02-04-2014

<econ>What if we both made various types of beer, cars and the like and exploited gains from trade? This seems like an overly simplistic trade model.</econ>

Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - Bruce Wang - 02-05-2014

(02-04-2014, 09:10 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:<econ>What if we both made various types of beer, cars and the like and exploited gains from trade? This seems like an overly simplistic trade model.</econ>

Krugman's monopolistically competitive trade model?  My biggest regret from majoring in economics was not taking Krugman's class.  I had already finished the major and didn't have room on the schedule.  I should have just taken the class for fun and dropped it if I was going to get a bad grade.

I saw Krugman speak on his last book tour and the guy was frickin' hillarious.  I told him "If I had known you were this funny, I would have taken your class."  His response "I don't know if I'm funny now, but I certainly wasn't back then."

Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - FarmBoy - 02-05-2014

Here's something I've been meaning to ask about Richard Sherman. Is it just me, or does anyone else remember Richard Sherman as a mediocre CB in college? My memory of his time at Stanford was that the first year after his switch from WR was a disaster. Every time he was matched up 1:1 on the outside with an above average receiver, I knew the ball was going that way and it would either be a catch or PI. He gave brobdingnagian buffers to the WR to avoid being burned and they would just catch the ball underneath for 6-8 yards. His second year he was better, maybe an average CB for college, clearly a step up from the defense we'd been playing in the late 2000's (Osaisai aside), but not anyone I thought would be an NFL prospect, let alone best CB in the game. Overall, I probably thought he'd made a mistake switching from WR where he'd shown some promise with pretty average QB play.

The story now is that his "fall" to the 5th round had to do with Harbaugh badmouthing him, but had he really done anything to show he deserved more than that? His athletic intangibles were there, so he was at least a project, but I don't remember anyone talking him up. His wiki page shows him having 6 INTs in his Stanford career, which is more than I would have guessed based on recall.

I'm just curious what other's of you remember of the legendary Sherman's time at Stanford.

I also wonder how he would have fared at WR with Luck throwing him the ball in 2009 and 2010.


Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - Hurlburt88 - 02-05-2014

My memory is similar to yours, FarmBoy.  He had some good plays, but in general seemed to play under his potential and I often wondered why he switched. 

Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - stupac2 - 02-05-2014

(02-05-2014, 12:04 PM)FarmBoy link Wrote:Here's something I've been meaning to ask about Richard Sherman. Is it just me, or does anyone else remember Richard Sherman as a mediocre CB in college? My memory of his time at Stanford was that the first year after his switch from WR was a disaster. Every time he was matched up 1:1 on the outside with an above average receiver, I knew the ball was going that way and it would either be a catch or PI. He gave brobdingnagian buffers to the WR to avoid being burned and they would just catch the ball underneath for 6-8 yards. His second year he was better, maybe an average CB for college, clearly a step up from the defense we'd been playing in the late 2000's (Osaisai aside), but not anyone I thought would be an NFL prospect, let alone best CB in the game. Overall, I probably thought he'd made a mistake switching from WR where he'd shown some promise with pretty average QB play.

The story now is that his "fall" to the 5th round had to do with Harbaugh badmouthing him, but had he really done anything to show he deserved more than that? His athletic intangibles were there, so he was at least a project, but I don't remember anyone talking him up. His wiki page shows him having 6 INTs in his Stanford career, which is more than I would have guessed based on recall.

I'm just curious what other's of you remember of the legendary Sherman's time at Stanford.

I also wonder how he would have fared at WR with Luck throwing him the ball in 2009 and 2010.

He was projected higher than the 5th by some places.

Also, he switched to CB so he could play, supposedly Harbaugh wasn't giving him minutes on offense. I think that change makes sense, a WR who doesn't get any playing time probably won't get drafted, if they get into the NFL at all.

Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - BostonCard - 02-05-2014

Richard Sherman was a starter on both sides of the ball at Stanford, something not many people in the modern era can claim (Owen Marecic is the only other Stanford guy I can think of off the top of my head).

From my Quora answer on Sherman:
http://www.quora.com/Richard-Sherman-NFL-player/What-do-Stanford-alums-think-of-Richard-Sherman/answer/Joshua-Galanter?__snids__=311356754&__nsrc__=1

Quote:First off, Richard Sherman was not "awful" at Stanford.  In fact, he had an outstanding college career at Stanford.  He was a starter at two different positions.  In his true freshman year, he led an admittedly awful team in receiving yards.  He repeated that feat his sophomore year, the first under Jim Harbaugh.  That year, with Stanford facing fourth and 20 late in the fourth quarter against the then #2 USC Trojans, he made a drive saving catch before getting drilled, gaining exactly 20 yards.  Stanford would go on to score the go-ahead touchdown and record the "Greatest Upset Ever".  If he had accomplished nothing else in his Stanford career, he would be a legend.

After leading the team in receiving yards his first two years at Stanford, he had a falling out with head coach Jim Harbaugh, and asked to be moved to the defense.  He sat out the 2008 season with an injury, but in 2009 was named a starting cornerback.  He led the team in pass breakups and tied for the lead in interceptions in his first year playing the position in college.  Stanford had its first winning season and first bowl game that year.  The following year, he again led the team in pass breakups and was second in interceptions on a team that went to the Fiesta Bowl.  Although that team would become known for its offense led by Voldemort runner-up Andrew Luck, its defense was under-rated; it shut out three teams, was ranked #20 in total defense and #9 in scoring defense.  I don't think it is fair to say that the 2010 Stanford Secondary got "lit up".

Richard Sherman was a key part of the transformation of Stanford from a 1-11 college football embarrassment to the dominant team it has been the last four years.

No, I would not have projected Sherman to be an all-pro cornerback in the NFL on the basis of his play at Stanford, especially pre-Lynn.  Once Lynn came in and instituted more bump and run coverage (similar to what Carroll runs in Seattle), Sherman did better.  To be fair, he was never an all-Pac10/12 player at cornerback (I can't find the list of HM, but I should look that up).  But I think a lot of people undervalued his contribution to Stanford, especially to a rather good 2010 Stanford defense.  Considering that he didn't play cornerback his first two years here, I think he acquitted himself quite well.

BC

Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - 76lsjumb - 02-05-2014

If The Shermanator had never made another play at Stanford, he would have still been "legendary" in my book for his catch in the 2006 UW game in Seattle, our ONLY win that season.  As described in The Daily:

""We definitely feel relieved it's off our shoulders," said freshman receiver Richard Sherman, who scored Stanford's first offensive touchdown in 15 quarters with a 74-yard reception in the fourth quarter. "Getting the first win, my first college win, feels great. It feels great to get the weight off our shoulders."

Stanford kicker Aaron Zagory converted a 29-yard field goal just before the half to go into the locker room tied at 3-3. Safety Bo McNally, making the first start of his college career, came up with the day's biggest defensive play, a 49-yard interception touchdown return in the third quarter that gave the Cardinal their first lead in two months, 10-3.

The Cardinal pushed it to 17-3 when Sherman turned a simple bubble screen -- aided by a key block by Marcus McCutcheon -- into a touchdown romp down the Huskies' sideline, Stanford's first offensive score since a halfback-option pass at Notre Dame on Oct. 6."

Of course, he DID make another play the following season:  that fourth down catch at the end of the G.U.E.




Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - FarmBoy - 02-05-2014

I don't remember him as excellent in 2010, but perhaps I had just developed to strong a physical conditioning response from his first year at CB to clench my sphincter any time the ball was thrown his way. He was definitely better, but I don't remember the excellence.

This site listed him at #23: http://walterfootball.com/draft2011CB.php

Scout didn't have him in the top 25: http://cfn.scout.com/2/1066865.html

NFL.com had this to say (http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/richard-sherman?id=2495507)
Quote:Sherman is a size prospect with some good intangibles that will help him mold into a contributing backup corner for a press-heavy team. However, he does not possess the natural coverage instincts, fluidity or burst to be considered a future starter. Is comfortable and capable in press man, using his size to disrupt receivers' releases off the line, but doesn't show enough make up speed to consistently recover when beaten. Awareness in zone and off-man are only adequate. Has average ball skills but some upside as a playmaker. Tough against the run but still developing from a technical standpoint. Sherman is a Day 3 prospect

Of course, these rankings could have been influenced by Harbaugh's alleged bad mouthing, so perhaps this doesn't prove anything. But I have real doubt about this story that seems to be accepted truth.

Re: 30 for 30 Richard Sherman - stupac2 - 02-05-2014

(02-05-2014, 03:09 PM)FarmBoy link Wrote:But I have real doubt about this story that seems to be accepted truth.

What story? I haven't seen anyone saying that he was one of the best in the country in his second year in the position, and the NFL.com scouting report is just one of many, I've seen some that were putting him higher, into the 2nd or 3rd.