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Categorical - Redrum - 06-15-2014

It is categorical...garvin is a much better writer than I.  terry is...hell, all of you-- are smarter than I.  And Cowboy Indian is funnier than all of us combined.  But this one time, I AM categorically correct.  Go see the movie "CHEF".  Don't ask questions.  Just do it.  It will make you feel better.  Take a break from the Obama Wars,  ISIS,  mysteriously disappearing airliners and go see it.  I was not in much of a mood for a movie but went on a Bay Area friend's recommendation.  He is seldom wrong and wasn't wrong this time.  Sure, it's got a big dollop of sentimentality,  but go anyway.  It is clever and well-written enough to more than make up for it.  Maybe eat before you go, but you'll be hungry when you come out.  The audience where I watched it was moaning during the food shots.  We joined in.  That's some good cookin'.

Just go.  You can abuse me later if it doesn't make you feel hungry or feel better.

Re: Categorical - washingtonismoney - 06-15-2014

(06-15-2014, 03:07 PM)garvin link Wrote:Does it have a lot of gratuitous sex and nudity? Otherwise, I'm not interesting.

A sad, Freudian slip.

No, but Miami is featured prominently - Redrum - 06-15-2014

so you can tell us just how unrealistic it is.  That's almost as interesting.  Maybe  you've even eaten what they feature and can tell us if it's anywhere near the cosmic treat it's made out to be.

Re: Categorical - pefloresjr - 06-15-2014

(06-15-2014, 03:07 PM)garvin link Wrote:Does it have a lot of gratuitous sex and nudity? Otherwise, I'm not interesting.
Don't worry Garvin.  Even if the movie had a great deal of gratuitous sex and nudity, I would still find you uninteresting.  :P

Cheers,
Pete F.

Re: Categorical - Hulk01 - 06-16-2014

Liked Chef a lot.  It pushed too hard for sentiment at many times and the director wasn't able to coax a good performance out of Chef's son, but still a nice evening at the movies. And it was wondeful to see the bombshell play a role other than the wretched cartoon she is forced to play in Modern Family, a program that can free-fall a viewers IQ almost a point per minute.

It's shaping up as a bad year for movies after the best one of my lifetime.  Maybe wait 'til next year?   

Re: Categorical - oman - 06-16-2014

Please tell me Will Smith is not doing the American version of Chef.

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Strangely... - Mick - 06-17-2014

...my wife is a brobdingnagian foodie, and yet she has zero desire to see Chef.

She's an extraordinary cook, better than most restaurants, seriously.  She also likes romantic movies, kinda likes Rocky style movies.  Agnostic about Jon Favreau.  But no desire to see the flick.

Re: Categorical - Bruce Wang - 06-17-2014

(06-16-2014, 09:01 AM)Hulk01 link Wrote:It's shaping up as a bad year for movies after the best one of my lifetime.  Maybe wait 'til next year? 

I'm 3 for 3 this year.  X-Men.  Avengers 1.5. 22 Jump Street.  The movie I'm eagerly awaiting is Kingsman (James Bond meets Harry Potter).

2015 could be epic.  Episode 7.  Avengers 2.  Batman Kicks Superman's Ass.

Re: Categorical - oman - 06-17-2014

(06-16-2014, 09:01 AM)Hulk01 link Wrote:It's shaping up as a bad year for movies after the best one of my lifetime.  Maybe wait 'til next year? 

Eh, last year.  The kitchen scene in X-men was better than most of last year's films combined.  Maybe it was mostly that the big budget one's were tiresome.

20 feet from Stardom was nice, though. 

Re: Categorical - oman - 06-17-2014

...and of course...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sHMCRaS3ao&feature=kp

Re: Categorical - washingtonismoney - 06-17-2014

I enjoyed The Grand Budapest Hotel, and have been meaning to see a bunch of other stuff. (The Double, for example.)

I guess I'll be the one to say it - Mick - 06-17-2014

I can't wait to see Guardians of the Galaxy.  Begin scornfest now...

Actually, the film I want to see most in 2014 is "Interstellar."  Christopher Nolan's first original film since the Dark Knight trilogy.  Cast includes  Matthew McConaughey, Anne Hathaway, Jessica Chastain, Matt Damon, Topher Grace, Casey Affleck, John Lithgow, Wes Bentley, and Michael Caine,  Sort of "Soylent Green" meets 2001.  Not enough food or crops.  Small group of scientists depart earth, go through wormhole, find solution.  Should be fun.

2013 was a bad year? - Hulk01 - 06-19-2014

Perhaps 20 Feet From Stardom, Mud, Zero Dark Thirty, Gravity, In A World, Dallas Buyer’s Club, Her, Wolf of Wall Street, Blackfish, American Hustle, Stories We Tell, Rush, All Is Lost, Frances Ha, and Computer Chess are not to everyone’s taste. (And many people would include Leviathan, 20 Years a Slave, and Inside Llwelyn Davis on that Damn Good list.) But those movies are among the reasons that most critics rank 2013 among the three best years in the history of cinema. 

So far this year, nothing moves me.  Chef was lightweight fun and could never crack that list above.  The movie from Chile, Gloria, gets a similar review.

Sure looks like the crum after the storm to me.

See Jersey Boys.  We are going at 7 tomorrow, and it has me wondering how I can ever suspend disbelief because my friend John Lloyd Young is the star. I could do that easily when I saw him on Broadway because we had not yet met.  it will be interesting.



Re: 2013 was a bad year? - oman - 06-19-2014

(06-19-2014, 01:45 PM)Publius link Wrote:Inside Llewyn Davis floored me.  It is by far my favorite Coen Brothers movie.

Wow.  You have got to be in the craziest of minorities.  And I liked it.

My beef with last years movies wasn't the quality of some of the small surprises (nebraska, buyers club) but in the big disappointments in some of the bigger movies.  Wolf of Wall Street was terrible Scorsese.  Gravity was just terrible apart from the opening scene.  All if Lost was just a neat idea that they didn't realize would be a brobdingnagian beat down.  So there was some gunk that soured the whole.

Zero Dark and Leviathan were 2012, no I wouldn't put 12 Years a Slave up there. 

The best small movie last year was The Hunt. 

In any case, most critics ranking 2013 one of the best three years in movie history?    Going to wait on the final results for that.   

I have Her on the living room table, so that may change my vote.

Re: Categorical - oman - 06-19-2014

I'm a slave to this site but doing it by year, we arguably have three better years in the 90s. alone.

http://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000_all1000films_table.php

We gotta let 2013 age.  Are your really that interested in seeing Mud ever again, as enjoyable as it may have been the first time around?

Re: Categorical - Hulk01 - 06-19-2014

I loved Mud.  Whether I'd see it again would not change that; there aren't many movies that I need to see twice.

Gravity was not a good example of excellent story telling, but the film making seemed extraordinary to me.  To make the setting even plausible seems a feat worth watching and honoring.  No question that it needed a better story to make it a great movie.

I also agree that Wolf was far from great, and another well-made movie with a so-so story--hardly a story at all.  What made it for me was the quality of at least six scenes.

The debate over whether to have dwarfs again, and other details of the upcoming party, was terrific satire, a lovely parody of every serious business meeting. 

DiCaprio's qualude crawl to his Ferrari was the best example of physical comedy since Chaplin, to me of course (it may somehow have been computer enhanced, but that doesn't diminish it for me.) 

The big dance scene on the boat , shot from the trailing aerial device, totally got me and felt so celebratory. 

Very few movies are great, top to bottom and inside out.  Godfather Two and then the list thins out for me.  So I can love a movie for the things it does remarkably well. Gravity and Wolf did that for me. 

And it may be getting hard to tell us great storie because we have read or seen virtually every permutation of every possible theme: coming of age, the journey, revenge, stranger in a strange land, Horatio Alger, men at war, Romeo and Juliet.  That leaves it to the non-storytelling aspects to make a movie sing at least a little.  Gravity in 3D on a brobdingnagian screen floored me. . .


Re: Categorical - washingtonismoney - 06-19-2014

My reaction to oman's list is a sigh: even cinema buffs, apparently, can't recognize that Tarantino's best film is Jackie Brown.

Re: Categorical - CowboyIndian - 06-19-2014

(06-19-2014, 02:51 PM)Hulk01 link Wrote:there aren't many movies that I need to see twice.

Joseph Heller called Hulk "The Man Who Saw Everything Once"

Re: Categorical - Bruce Wang - 06-19-2014

While we're talking about movies, my favorite obscure movie is Ridicule.  It's a French period piece set at Versailles during Louis 16's reign.  The hero and heroine are Stanford-types. It's the ultimate nerd love story. 

Come to think of it, theCARDboard is this movie reincarnated as an internet message board.  See it and you will see what I mean.

Re: Categorical - oman - 06-19-2014

[Short version:  Scorsese disappointing me really puts me in a bad mood until the next Scorsese flick, and doesn't make my posting any less crazy.]

(06-19-2014, 02:51 PM)Hulk01 link Wrote:I loved Mud.  Whether I'd see it again would not change that; there aren't many movies that I need to see twice.

Well, I actually loved American Hustle, but that doesn't mean I'm crowning 2013 one of the three best years in cinema. 



Quote:Very few movies are great, top to bottom and inside out.  Godfather Two and then the list thins out for me.

Well, that's a broad and somewhat limiting (and erroneous, IMO) statement.  I'm trying to figure out what is wrong with about five John Ford flicks, probably seven Kubrick flicks, a few Spielberg flicks, two Renoir's, a couple of Orson Wells flicks, a few Powell and Pressberger flicks, etc., let alone a couple of US and Japanese animated features and 2012's A Separation.  Polanski has two top to bottom great flicks, arguably three.  (Although maybe I am just overestimating what you mean by "thin out".)

Quote:And it may be getting hard to tell us great storie because we have read or seen virtually every permutation of every possible theme: coming of age, the journey, revenge, stranger in a strange land, Horatio Alger, men at war, Romeo and Juliet.  That leaves it to the non-storytelling aspects to make a movie sing at least a little.  Gravity in 3D on a brobdingnagian screen floored me. . .

Heck, that's arguably an issue after Homer, and certainly after Shakespeare.  Story is one aspect of it.  As to the 3D, I respect it but when I see a movie as lacking as Gravity all I wonder is is how it would have enhanced 2001: A Space Odyssey let alone Alien.

I think last year had a nice variety of movies for lots of tastes. And I certainly think there are movies that a great top to bottom like Godfather 2.  Just not in 2013.