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Kal rugby wasn\'t "cut" like baseball was - Redrum - 12-03-2010

Kal rugby is like a defeated army that is allowed to escape to fight another day.   Napolean in exile in Elba.  They\'ll be back.  Whatever.  Kal just changed status and cut some funding...in the program that has some of the highest sport-specific alumni support in the whole school.  Change in access to practice fields--which, wouldn\'t you know it-- just happen to be needed by the football team because of the renovation of Memorial Stadium.  It\'s more like a physical space accomodation than a budgetary cut, but it looks like a budgetary cut, so it will do for now.   They are not really withdrawing the place to play and practice,  they\'re just sort of sending Rugby on a slight detour while things get settled out.   Travel budgets cut, but not eliminated.  Other AD services cut but not eliminated.   Not at all the same as baseball.  Just ask David Esquer.

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Well of course the rugby people aren\'t HAPPY - Redrum - 12-03-2010

But it\'s relative to the sweet deal they had before.  Baseball had the same sweet deal and now they are DEAD DEAD.   Rugby doesn\'t have their sweet deal but they are not DEAD DEAD.   They have morphed/been demoted to club sport that still is around to get access to a reduced,  but significant, Kal AD support.   Heck, this whole analysis came from the Kal boards sorting out the impact when the news had just broken.   They are alive, simply squealing as if they\'re being murdered.

I just get a kick out of how Barbour couches the cutback,  as if the remaining $5million annual subsidy from the university is some bedrock support they are due.   Need to get the teapartiers after that final $5million.   Then let\'s see how much Kal football really spreads around to the other sports.

Edit add:  If the subsidy survives and after the dust settles,  I guarantee garvin will live to see the slow rehabilitation of Kal rugby.  They have a vocal and influential backing group in the whole (shrinking)constellation.  There will be breaks on field use here,  access to sports training facilities and personnel there.  Funding for a couple of rugby tours although on a scale less ambitious than before.
Just be patient.   It\'ll happen.

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Re: Why the 59ers cut rugby and baseball - terry - 12-03-2010

Barbour\'s letter makes it sound like the budget problems just materialized when the economy crashed. But she\'s been grossly overspending her budget the entire time she\'s been at UCBerkeley. She never balanced the budget. Even during the good economic times, she was sucking millions of dollars of subsidies from the university. I\'m surprised that she hasn\'t taken any blame for this whole fiasco.

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In fairness to Sandy Barbour - Redrum - 12-04-2010

WAIT!  What am I saying?   I say, in a non gender-aggressive way,  screw her!

Terry\'s point.  Well, Barbour did link it more-or-less to the recession\'s effect on the PSLs  (or whatever bs name they\'re giving it), but it IS
disingenuous to ignore they\'ve been addicted to university subsidies to support a larger program than they could afford in a real world.  Her little dig at the state\'s "disinvestment" in the university system was particularly disingenuous blame avoidance.

The question not addressed is one that is discussed quite openly on the San Jose St. boards,  how rising tuition and housing costs are
eating up more and more of the AD budget.  I would think that same mechanism is biting Kal in the a**  much harder.

It will also be interesting to see what happens when they actually start building and renovating and all of a sudden they really do run out of money with the job not complete.

The part that gets me is the blithe assumption that they\'ve got a $5 million firm floor going forward.  Wouldn\'t  bet on it.  The financial realities putting pressure on their present $9 million subsidy now don\'t go away just because they hit some arbitrary lower number.   If I read the state of California\'s financial condition correctly from afar,  the sh*tstorm is yet to arrive.   Tough to defend women\'s field hockey funding when the proletariat is facing yet another brobdingnagian tuition and housing hike.  

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