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16 vs. 1 seeds - BostonCard - 04-02-2015
I hesitate to bring up the topic, but I found a little tidbit from fivethirtyeight.com...
Not only were we the only #1 seed to ever lose to a #16 seed in Div 1 basketball (of either sex), in women's basketball, we are the only top-3 seed to lose in the first round.
Ouch.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dont-expect-a-no-16-seed-to-win-in-the-womens-tournament-ever-again/
BC
Re: 16 vs. 1 seeds - BurgXXIII - 04-02-2015
I don't know about this. What if you had an elite level team that depended on two All-Americans for scoring and defense that achieved a No. 1 seed, but then lost those two players to injury in the days before the tournament? Might that not put them in jeopardy? Could happen.
Re: 16 vs. 1 seeds - rudruff - 04-02-2015
You also need a #16 seed with a WNBA player on it.
Re: 16 vs. 1 seeds - 76lsjumb - 04-02-2015
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the most likely REAL reason why that happened to us in 1998.
1998? Let's see...did anything else significant happen in Stanford Basketball in 1998? Oh yeah.
Just a coincidence? I think not...
Re: 16 vs. 1 seeds - CompSci87 - 04-02-2015
(04-02-2015, 01:20 AM)Boston Card link Wrote:I hesitate to bring up the topic, but I found a little tidbit from fivethirtyeight.com...
Not only were we the only #1 seed to ever lose to a #16 seed in Div 1 basketball (of either sex), in women's basketball, we are the only top-3 seed to lose in the first round.
Ouch.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dont-expect-a-no-16-seed-to-win-in-the-womens-tournament-ever-again/
BC
The Harvard loss gets brought up every year at tournament time, like clockwork, as if it's some lasting black mark on Stanford WBB, and I'm sick to death of it. It's "The Play" of WBB. This year ESPN had *two* stories about it, one largely a reference to the 538 story and the other a separate one. ::)
I'll grant that the 538 story with the interviews of players and coaches who were there was well done and had some interesting material. Dare I hope that this one puts it to rest, or will we see more stories about it next year, or at least next time the Stanford women get a #1 seed?
Re: 16 vs. 1 seeds - 76lsjumb - 04-02-2015
(04-02-2015, 08:40 PM)CompSci87 link Wrote:Dare I hope that this one puts it to rest, or will we see more stories about it next year, or at least next time the Stanford women get a #1 seed?
The way things went this year, I would happily listen to that story a few more times IF it meant that we once again get a few #1 seeds. I'm not entirely sure that will ever happen again...or, at least, happen again in the next several years. Hope I'm wrong...
Re: 16 vs. 1 seeds - BostonCard - 04-04-2015
(04-02-2015, 08:40 PM)CompSci87 link Wrote:[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=11980.msg115965#msg115965 date=1427962814]
I hesitate to bring up the topic, but I found a little tidbit from fivethirtyeight.com...
Not only were we the only #1 seed to ever lose to a #16 seed in Div 1 basketball (of either sex), in women's basketball, we are the only top-3 seed to lose in the first round.
Ouch.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dont-expect-a-no-16-seed-to-win-in-the-womens-tournament-ever-again/
BC
The Harvard loss gets brought up every year at tournament time, like clockwork, as if it's some lasting black mark on Stanford WBB, and I'm sick to death of it. It's "The Play" of WBB. This year ESPN had *two* stories about it, one largely a reference to the 538 story and the other a separate one. ::)
I'll grant that the 538 story with the interviews of players and coaches who were there was well done and had some interesting material. Dare I hope that this one puts it to rest, or will we see more stories about it next year, or at least next time the Stanford women get a #1 seed?
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Well, here are a couple of uplifting thoughts. Since 2007, Stanford has the second best record in women's basketball. And, Stanford has the second best record against the team with the best record in women's basketball.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/uconn-and-notre-dame-could-renew-the-best-rivalry-in-womens-basketball-in-tampa/
BC