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Charlie Hopkins transferring - Stanford_Cardinals - 04-30-2015
http://www.streakingthelawn.com/2015/4/30/8522889/charlie-hopkins-transfers-to-virginia-football-team-from
Not sure if this was expected, but makes sense given the depth at TE. Also, the # of grad transfers opens up room for a pretty sizable recruiting class.
Re: Charlie Hopkins transferring - winflop - 04-30-2015
I think his transfer was expected and it makes sense given the number of young, field-ready TEs on the roster.
Glad he got his degree and I wish him luck at UVa.
Re: Charlie Hopkins transferring - CTcard - 04-30-2015
(04-30-2015, 11:27 AM)Stanford_Cardinals link Wrote:Also, the # of grad transfers opens up room for a pretty sizable recruiting class.
It was expected, though I don't know if UVa was known as the destination.
The # of grad transfers probably has no effect on recruiting classes. The fall 2015 class is set and we will be well under the scholarship limit for the fall. The next class comes in in the fall of 2016 when all the grad transfers would be gone anyway.
Re: Charlie Hopkins transferring - Stanford_Cardinals - 04-30-2015
(04-30-2015, 11:44 AM)CTcard link Wrote:[quote author=Stanford_Cardinals link=topic=12075.msg117451#msg117451 date=1430418471]
Also, the # of grad transfers opens up room for a pretty sizable recruiting class.
It was expected, though I don't know if UVa was known as the destination.
The # of grad transfers probably has no effect on recruiting classes. The fall 2015 class is set and we will be well under the scholarship limit for the fall. The next class comes in in the fall of 2016 when all the grad transfers would be gone anyway.
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Good point. Maybe its just my imagination but it does seem like the # of grad transfers has been rising recently. If this is a one-time adjustment due to overall improvement in recruiting quality, then coaches shouldn't make any adjustment to recruiting strategy. However, if it's a longer-term trend you'd think they would start recruiting bigger classes to account for attrition.
Re: Charlie Hopkins transferring - CTcard - 04-30-2015
(04-30-2015, 12:58 PM)Stanford_Cardinals link Wrote:Maybe its just my imagination but it does seem like the # of grad transfers has been rising recently. If this is a one-time adjustment due to overall improvement in recruiting quality, then coaches shouldn't make any adjustment to recruiting strategy. However, if it's a longer-term trend you'd think they would start recruiting bigger classes to account for attrition.
There is a big uptick this year.
I think that is partly because the no-sit-out for grad school rule is starting to be more broadly known, and I also believe that they made the process easier by no longer requiring that the "transfer" student enroll in a graduate program that the original school does not offer.
I am under the impression that the coaching staff is trying to help students slated to graduate, but not slated to play (much) next year, find a new home. If so, this would be a major reason for more such transfers.
My rough guess is that only about three of the grad transfers would be back with the team next year without the rule (Lyons, Skov, Young).
Stanford has been running below the scholarship limits for some time, so one could argue that they might want to start recruiting bigger classes regardless. An additional attrition of ~3 per year might make that more imperative.
Re: Charlie Hopkins transferring - terry - 04-30-2015
I don't think Hopkins or Reihner had the option to return to Stanford for a 5th year, based on what I've read elsewhere. I'm glad they were able to find good opportunities elsewhere.
Crower and Young would not have been expected to get much playing time if they had returned to Stanford. Young has transferred to Boise St. I assume Crower will find another option.
Lyons and Skov would have played regularly, quite possibly been starters. Both probably would have shared time in the rotation with younger players. Lyons was demoted from his starting position last year, which may have affected his enthusiasm for returning to play for Coach Akina. Also his mom just got a job at Michigan. Skov got an opportunity to transfer to one of the few programs in which the fullback is a featured ball-carrier. He will get more carries in a game at Georgia Tech than he would have had in a season at Stanford. And GT accepted him to its MBA program. Good opportunity for him.
All things considered, this is a positive thing w/ recruits - Redrum - 04-30-2015
Take a look sometime at the list of schools that have abysmal grad rates. It's depressing. It's maybe hundreds of kids each year that leave without football in their future or a marketable degree (or any degree). Meanwhile Stanford is graduating kids with degrees and a chance in many cases to pay for a year of grad school by playing football in situations where they might see the field more than at Stanford. That seems like a program discriminator worth keeping in recruits' consciousness. Won't have much traction with a lot of HS players trying to make a college decision, but it's visible,demonstrable evidence of how a Stanford degree can help beyond the normal college playing career. It might be a persuasive factoid (among others) with the type of student who considers Stanford.
Re: All things considered, this is a positive thing w/ recruits - Rally - 04-30-2015
(04-30-2015, 02:37 PM)Redrum link Wrote:Take a look sometime at the list of schools that have abysmal grad rates. It's depressing. It's maybe hundreds of kids each year that leave without football in their future or a marketable degree (or any degree). Meanwhile Stanford is graduating kids with degrees and a chance in many cases to pay for a year of grad school by playing football in situations where they might see the field more than at Stanford. That seems like a program discriminator worth keeping in recruits' consciousness. Won't have much traction with a lot of HS players trying to make a college decision, but it's visible,demonstrable evidence of how a Stanford degree can help beyond the normal college playing career. It might be a persuasive factoid (among others) with the type of student who considers Stanford.
I agree with everything you said here, but please be careful about adding it to the recruiting pitch. Remember, all these kids (well, most) as positive an NFL career awaits them prior to becoming doctors and rocket scientists (and hedge fund managers,) especially the offerees in '16 and '17.
Re: Charlie Hopkins transferring - Oasis - 04-30-2015
Is Hopkins in a master's program?
Re: Charlie Hopkins transferring - Stanford_Cardinals - 04-30-2015
(04-30-2015, 06:42 PM)Oasis link Wrote:Is Hopkins in a master's program?
He's graduating from Stanford, so yes. Not sure which program at UVA.
Re: Charlie Hopkins transferring - CTcard - 04-30-2015
(04-30-2015, 06:51 PM)Stanford_Cardinals link Wrote:[quote author=Oasis link=topic=12075.msg117473#msg117473 date=1430444566]
Is Hopkins in a master's program?
He's graduating from Stanford, so yes. Not sure which program at UVA.
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Well, I suppose it could be a Ph.D. program ...
Re: Charlie Hopkins transferring - ChicagoCard - 05-01-2015
This article says he'll enroll in the Curry School of Education.