[Redrum]

The Pac-10 and the Big 12.   Test the waters with a media alliance.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/...77149.html

[Redrum]

The Pac-10 and the Big 12.   Test the waters with a media alliance.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/...77149.html

[Canalejas]

How do you all think the scheduling would work?  Would Oregon strike up a regular rivalry with Oklahoma and USC with Texas?  Who would Stanford get in such a setup?  Or is some sort of rotating system more likely, one where we\'d get a visit from each of their teams roughly once every two decades?

[Canalejas]

How do you all think the scheduling would work?  Would Oregon strike up a regular rivalry with Oklahoma and USC with Texas?  Who would Stanford get in such a setup?  Or is some sort of rotating system more likely, one where we\'d get a visit from each of their teams roughly once every two decades?

[CowboyIndian]

We had home-and-homes with a lot of Big 12 teams a while ago...including Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado. We\'ve had two sets with Texas in the past 25 or so years.

[CowboyIndian]

We had home-and-homes with a lot of Big 12 teams a while ago...including Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado. We\'ve had two sets with Texas in the past 25 or so years.

[washingtonismoney]

For this to work, the scheduling has to be truly responsive--i.e. changeable from year-to-year. Let\'s take an example of Cal versus Texas in 2015 and \'16, as mentioned by the article. Well, if that matchup is happening this year, it\'s an intriguing one. But, for all we know (and hope), Cal will be awful in 2015-16 and hence unappealing to the average TV viewer.

[washingtonismoney]

For this to work, the scheduling has to be truly responsive--i.e. changeable from year-to-year. Let\'s take an example of Cal versus Texas in 2015 and \'16, as mentioned by the article. Well, if that matchup is happening this year, it\'s an intriguing one. But, for all we know (and hope), Cal will be awful in 2015-16 and hence unappealing to the average TV viewer.

[yvonne]

We\'ve had two sets with Texas in the past 25 or so years.

One of those games was brobdingnagian.

[yvonne]

We\'ve had two sets with Texas in the past 25 or so years.

One of those games was brobdingnagian.

[Redrum]

This item belongs in this thread.  About the Big 12 Conference meetings and the commissioner trying to close the ranks against the speculation that the Big 12 will be carved up between other conferences.

Love parsing Texas AD\'s non-assurance...that he\'s making sure he understands all the options  and plays off a Harbaugh-esque line about  about "hoping to retire"  at Stanford,  only the Texas AD says he hopes they\'ll all retire "knowing the Big 12 is a great conference."  
Not exactly a count-on-me-coach kind of speech.

I don\'t have a clue where this all is going.  I don\'t even have a clue where I should want it to go.
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5240880

[Redrum]

This item belongs in this thread.  About the Big 12 Conference meetings and the commissioner trying to close the ranks against the speculation that the Big 12 will be carved up between other conferences.

Love parsing Texas AD\'s non-assurance...that he\'s making sure he understands all the options  and plays off a Harbaugh-esque line about  about "hoping to retire"  at Stanford,  only the Texas AD says he hopes they\'ll all retire "knowing the Big 12 is a great conference."  
Not exactly a count-on-me-coach kind of speech.

I don\'t have a clue where this all is going.  I don\'t even have a clue where I should want it to go.
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5240880

[Canalejas]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/bl...aaf,245537

Any thoughts on this?

[Canalejas]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/bl...aaf,245537

Any thoughts on this?

[Sue_Ann_Duckett]

I was skeptical until I hit the part about the involvement of Fox Sports. A sugar daddy like that makes all things possible.

[Sue_Ann_Duckett]

I was skeptical until I hit the part about the involvement of Fox Sports. A sugar daddy like that makes all things possible.

[Sue_Ann_Duckett]

More on a Pac-10 raid on the Big 12:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/...oklahoma/1

[Sue_Ann_Duckett]

More on a Pac-10 raid on the Big 12:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/...oklahoma/1

[Redrum]

The last time the Texas schools moved,  they blew up the SWAC and joined the Big 8.   Getting that done involved the state governor and legislature.  Intense political pressure was brought to make sure that Baylor would not be left behind and that it was clear that any move involving Univ. of Texas would also involve  rival Texas A&M.   That doesn\'t seem to be a problem with this deal...except Baylor isn\'t mentioned.   Politicians could make this a sticky state issue and you know they will be involved in mucking about with state schools.  Some of the heavy lifting will involve  lobbying away from the campuses.   Might already have happened.

[Redrum]

The last time the Texas schools moved,  they blew up the SWAC and joined the Big 8.   Getting that done involved the state governor and legislature.  Intense political pressure was brought to make sure that Baylor would not be left behind and that it was clear that any move involving Univ. of Texas would also involve  rival Texas A&M.   That doesn\'t seem to be a problem with this deal...except Baylor isn\'t mentioned.   Politicians could make this a sticky state issue and you know they will be involved in mucking about with state schools.  Some of the heavy lifting will involve  lobbying away from the campuses.   Might already have happened.

[Robbie]

I thought the problem at the time was that the sitting governor was a Baylor graduate. If this is not the case then the hurdle will be much smaller.

[Robbie]

I thought the problem at the time was that the sitting governor was a Baylor graduate. If this is not the case then the hurdle will be much smaller.

[Beeg_Dawg]

Further clarification, or perhaps muddying, on the "Tech problem." It may be related to whether Texas Tech qualifies as a research institution.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/spo...ml?sid=101

Of course they are.  Didn\'t they do field research on the spread offense?

[Beeg_Dawg]

Further clarification, or perhaps muddying, on the "Tech problem." It may be related to whether Texas Tech qualifies as a research institution.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/spo...ml?sid=101

Of course they are.  Didn\'t they do field research on the spread offense?

[Mick]

Further clarification, or perhaps muddying, on the "Tech problem." It may be related to whether Texas Tech qualifies as a research institution.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/spo...ml?sid=101

Of course they are.  Didn\'t they do field research on the spread offense?

I dunno...the academic qualifications to enter half of the Pac 10 right now are essentially the same as San Jose State\'s.  I\'m sure Texas Tech\'s academic program will suffice.

[Mick]

Further clarification, or perhaps muddying, on the "Tech problem." It may be related to whether Texas Tech qualifies as a research institution.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/spo...ml?sid=101

Of course they are.  Didn\'t they do field research on the spread offense?

I dunno...the academic qualifications to enter half of the Pac 10 right now are essentially the same as San Jose State\'s.  I\'m sure Texas Tech\'s academic program will suffice.

[yvonne]

Pac-10 ADs have given the conference permission to expand.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5257774

[yvonne]

Pac-10 ADs have given the conference permission to expand.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5257774

[yvonne]

Whoa!  I never heard the plan explained as Mandel has here.  Basically, this plan provides for expansion while reviving the Pac-8!  

[yvonne]

Whoa!  I never heard the plan explained as Mandel has here.  Basically, this plan provides for expansion while reviving the Pac-8!  

[jacketree]

Hey, this is pretty funny:

http://ames.craigslist.org/wan/1780238352.html

Someway, somehow, I think Notre Dame is the pin in the grenade about to destroy college football as we know it.  This is all speculative on my part, but it wasn\'t a coincidence that the Big Teneleven stopped with Penn State.  They want ND to make an even dozen, so they too can break into divisions and hold a title game.

So, if ND accepts a back-channel invite to join the Big Ten, everything stops right there.  Texas and the Sooners remain in the Big 12; the Big Ten changes their logo but remains the Big Ten (or as a condition of joining, The Big Ten Starring Notre Dame with Featured Guest JoePa U), the SEC goes on happily wallowing in its own filth, and beach-starved Utah and Colorado join the Pac12 -- maybe.  Big 12 grabs TCU to replace CU. Boise replaces Utah in the Mtn. West. It\'s just up the road anyway.

But if the alleged invites to Mizzou and Nebraska don\'t convince ND that the Big 10 train is leaving the station or forever hold your peace (to which they might say \'BFD\'), then all hell breaks loose. The Big 10 has to follow through with MO and NE (or not, i guess), and they aren\'t going to stop at 13; they\'ll want 16.  The Red River Cabal (Texas, A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma and Ok State) go west rather than into the Great Lakes, and the Big Ten pushes into big eastern TV markets for other AAU BCS schools (Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers) and/or big southern TV markets for other AAU BCS schools (Florida, Georgia Tech) wreaking havoc on its way to becoming a true superpower, balanced only in the west by the new Pac16, with the Rose Bowl as a mutually assured title game for half of the country.  The SEC freaks out and responds by grabbing Florida State and Miami to replace Florida; and Clemson, because one Tiger Rag and Death Valley in the conference is simply not enough. The decimated ACC orders statues of Lefty Driesel to be built on every remaining member campus and we\'ll see you in March.

Or.....absolutely nothing happens because inertia generally rules the universe.

[jacketree]

Hey, this is pretty funny:

http://ames.craigslist.org/wan/1780238352.html

Someway, somehow, I think Notre Dame is the pin in the grenade about to destroy college football as we know it.  This is all speculative on my part, but it wasn\'t a coincidence that the Big Teneleven stopped with Penn State.  They want ND to make an even dozen, so they too can break into divisions and hold a title game.

So, if ND accepts a back-channel invite to join the Big Ten, everything stops right there.  Texas and the Sooners remain in the Big 12; the Big Ten changes their logo but remains the Big Ten (or as a condition of joining, The Big Ten Starring Notre Dame with Featured Guest JoePa U), the SEC goes on happily wallowing in its own filth, and beach-starved Utah and Colorado join the Pac12 -- maybe.  Big 12 grabs TCU to replace CU. Boise replaces Utah in the Mtn. West. It\'s just up the road anyway.

But if the alleged invites to Mizzou and Nebraska don\'t convince ND that the Big 10 train is leaving the station or forever hold your peace (to which they might say \'BFD\'), then all hell breaks loose. The Big 10 has to follow through with MO and NE (or not, i guess), and they aren\'t going to stop at 13; they\'ll want 16.  The Red River Cabal (Texas, A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma and Ok State) go west rather than into the Great Lakes, and the Big Ten pushes into big eastern TV markets for other AAU BCS schools (Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers) and/or big southern TV markets for other AAU BCS schools (Florida, Georgia Tech) wreaking havoc on its way to becoming a true superpower, balanced only in the west by the new Pac16, with the Rose Bowl as a mutually assured title game for half of the country.  The SEC freaks out and responds by grabbing Florida State and Miami to replace Florida; and Clemson, because one Tiger Rag and Death Valley in the conference is simply not enough. The decimated ACC orders statues of Lefty Driesel to be built on every remaining member campus and we\'ll see you in March.

Or.....absolutely nothing happens because inertia generally rules the universe.

[Kathy]

The Big 12 has issued an ultimatum to Mizzou and Nebraska, demanding they put the kibosh on Big Ten talks by Friday. Coincidentally, the University of Missouri system\'s Board of Curators has its regularly scheduled meeting this Thursday and Friday. Its counterpart at the University of Nebraska system also is meeting this week.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2010...tigerextra

[Kathy]

The Big 12 has issued an ultimatum to Mizzou and Nebraska, demanding they put the kibosh on Big Ten talks by Friday. Coincidentally, the University of Missouri system\'s Board of Curators has its regularly scheduled meeting this Thursday and Friday. Its counterpart at the University of Nebraska system also is meeting this week.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2010...tigerextra

[Redrum]

Liked the Big Ten, featuring...Notre Dame!    I think the billing they are negotiating  is ND\'s proposed conference renaming/re-branding:  

"Notre Dame:  A Celestial Football Experience

also featuring:

The June Taylor Dancers  and some local Midwest football teams."

[Redrum]

Liked the Big Ten, featuring...Notre Dame!    I think the billing they are negotiating  is ND\'s proposed conference renaming/re-branding:  

"Notre Dame:  A Celestial Football Experience

also featuring:

The June Taylor Dancers  and some local Midwest football teams."