[BostonCard]

Kind of a bizarre story:

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/06/24...cmp=hplnws

He breaks in naked to a neighbors home, who shoots him. 

BC

[BostonCard]

Kind of a bizarre story:

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/06/24...cmp=hplnws

He breaks in naked to a neighbors home, who shoots him. 

BC

[82 Card]

A little bit more detail at http://heavy.com/sports/2016/06/stanley-...es-father/

Not sure how they get attempted burglary out of swimming in a fountain.

[82 Card]

A little bit more detail at http://heavy.com/sports/2016/06/stanley-...es-father/

Not sure how they get attempted burglary out of swimming in a fountain.

[Canalejas]

When will I learn to not read the comments on news articles?

[Canalejas]

When will I learn to not read the comments on news articles?

[82 Card]

When will I learn to not read the comments on news articles?

Same time you stop craning your neck to see the car crash on the highway?

[82 Card]

When will I learn to not read the comments on news articles?

Same time you stop craning your neck to see the car crash on the highway?

[Canalejas]

[quote author=Robber Baron 83 link=topic=15234.msg165539#msg165539 date=1466841036]
When will I learn to not read the comments on news articles?

Same time you stop craning your neck to see the car crash on the highway?
[/quote]

I'm actually really good at resisting the urge to rubberneck.  Though I do usually ask my passenger(s) to describe what they saw.

[Canalejas]

[quote author=Robber Baron 83 link=topic=15234.msg165539#msg165539 date=1466841036]
When will I learn to not read the comments on news articles?

Same time you stop craning your neck to see the car crash on the highway?
[/quote]

I'm actually really good at resisting the urge to rubberneck.  Though I do usually ask my passenger(s) to describe what they saw.

[TrumpCard]

The DA may have overcharged the offense. Unless he actually broke into someone's house, he probably won't serve time. Heck, rapists get only 6 months these days. The bigger issues for Wilson are recovering from the gunshot wound and recovering from whatever problems contributed to him ending up naked in some stranger's fountain.

[TrumpCard]

The DA may have overcharged the offense. Unless he actually broke into someone's house, he probably won't serve time. Heck, rapists get only 6 months these days. The bigger issues for Wilson are recovering from the gunshot wound and recovering from whatever problems contributed to him ending up naked in some stranger's fountain.

[dabigv13]

It's a sad world where you get shot for being naked in a stranger's fountain.

[dabigv13]

It's a sad world where you get shot for being naked in a stranger's fountain.

[ThePassionOfTheChryst]

When will I learn to not read the comments on news articles?

My goodness you weren't kidding.

[ThePassionOfTheChryst]

When will I learn to not read the comments on news articles?

My goodness you weren't kidding.

[82 Card]

I suspect the prosecutors charged attempted burglary in order to excuse not charging the rifleman. ORS § 161.219 provides:

Limitations on use of deadly physical force in defense of a person
Notwithstanding the provisions of ORS 161.209 (Use of physical force in defense of a person), a person is not justified in using deadly physical force upon another person unless the person reasonably believes that the other person is:

(1) Committing or attempting to commit a felony involving the use or threatened imminent use of physical force against a person; or
(2) Committing or attempting to commit a burglary in a dwelling; or
(3) Using or about to use unlawful deadly physical force against a person. [1971 c.743 §23]

[82 Card]

I suspect the prosecutors charged attempted burglary in order to excuse not charging the rifleman. ORS § 161.219 provides:

Limitations on use of deadly physical force in defense of a person
Notwithstanding the provisions of ORS 161.209 (Use of physical force in defense of a person), a person is not justified in using deadly physical force upon another person unless the person reasonably believes that the other person is:

(1) Committing or attempting to commit a felony involving the use or threatened imminent use of physical force against a person; or
(2) Committing or attempting to commit a burglary in a dwelling; or
(3) Using or about to use unlawful deadly physical force against a person. [1971 c.743 §23]

[dabigv13]

I hope we get the whole story. I've had several friends over the years end up in a wrong house or yard after a night of drinking. Thank god the homeowners weren't packing heat and itching to use it.

Doesn't sound like a robbery. That homeowner should've called the cops and locked the door.

[dabigv13]

I hope we get the whole story. I've had several friends over the years end up in a wrong house or yard after a night of drinking. Thank god the homeowners weren't packing heat and itching to use it.

Doesn't sound like a robbery. That homeowner should've called the cops and locked the door.

[fullmetal]

If the attempted burglary charge goes away, does the homeowner still get a pass for shooting Wilson?  (Just an academic thought)

[fullmetal]

If the attempted burglary charge goes away, does the homeowner still get a pass for shooting Wilson?  (Just an academic thought)

[BostonCard]

Based on the way the statute was written, the homeowner probably still gets a pass (depending on circumstances), under the phrasing "the person reasonably believes that the other person is: Committing or attempting to commit a burglary in a dwelling"  I think even if not charged, the homeowner might have a case by saying, "I reasonably thought he was going to try to burgle my house".  The fact that Wilson was charged helps a lot, since it was "reasonable" enough that the DA brought charges.

BC

[BostonCard]

Based on the way the statute was written, the homeowner probably still gets a pass (depending on circumstances), under the phrasing "the person reasonably believes that the other person is: Committing or attempting to commit a burglary in a dwelling"  I think even if not charged, the homeowner might have a case by saying, "I reasonably thought he was going to try to burgle my house".  The fact that Wilson was charged helps a lot, since it was "reasonable" enough that the DA brought charges.

BC

[dabigv13]

Burglars usually aren't naked....

[dabigv13]

Burglars usually aren't naked....

[ThePassionOfTheChryst]

I hope we get the whole story. I've had several friends over the years end up in a wrong house or yard after a night of drinking. Thank god the homeowners weren't packing heat and itching to use it.

Doesn't sound like a robbery. That homeowner should've called the cops and locked the door.

Naked?

[ThePassionOfTheChryst]

I hope we get the whole story. I've had several friends over the years end up in a wrong house or yard after a night of drinking. Thank god the homeowners weren't packing heat and itching to use it.

Doesn't sound like a robbery. That homeowner should've called the cops and locked the door.

Naked?

[M T]

I can certainly imagine relatively innocent explanations of what we initially heard -- ("I was headed to bed and the cat wanted in, but then I got locked out.  So I went to several neighbors' to try to find a hammer to break out a window.  I'd been looking for one for 3 and a half hours") or even believable explanations ("I was under the influence and thought I was a merman") -- and I'd be happy if they were true.  But I'd have thought any innocent explanation would have come out immediately after Wilson was asked what happened. 

More details here:
  http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index...nd_or.html


Also in Portland, a subsequent shooting (this time fatally) of an alleged intruder:
  http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index...in_he.html

[M T]

I can certainly imagine relatively innocent explanations of what we initially heard -- ("I was headed to bed and the cat wanted in, but then I got locked out.  So I went to several neighbors' to try to find a hammer to break out a window.  I'd been looking for one for 3 and a half hours") or even believable explanations ("I was under the influence and thought I was a merman") -- and I'd be happy if they were true.  But I'd have thought any innocent explanation would have come out immediately after Wilson was asked what happened. 

More details here:
  http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index...nd_or.html


Also in Portland, a subsequent shooting (this time fatally) of an alleged intruder:
  http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index...in_he.html

[dabigv13]

[quote author=dabigv link=topic=15234.msg165571#msg165571 date=1466917712]
I hope we get the whole story. I've had several friends over the years end up in a wrong house or yard after a night of drinking. Thank god the homeowners weren't packing heat and itching to use it.

Doesn't sound like a robbery. That homeowner should've called the cops and locked the door.

Naked?
[/quote]

Don't think so, but couldn't say definitively. Generally the homeowners were pretty understanding as I seem to recall.

[dabigv13]

[quote author=dabigv link=topic=15234.msg165571#msg165571 date=1466917712]
I hope we get the whole story. I've had several friends over the years end up in a wrong house or yard after a night of drinking. Thank god the homeowners weren't packing heat and itching to use it.

Doesn't sound like a robbery. That homeowner should've called the cops and locked the door.

Naked?
[/quote]

Don't think so, but couldn't say definitively. Generally the homeowners were pretty understanding as I seem to recall.