09-04-2016, 03:43 PM
Go Mighty Card recap
09-04-2016, 06:59 PM
Very excellent!!!
"It's not what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you think you know that just isn't so."
Mark Twain
09-05-2016, 12:31 PM
Quote:Chryst played just one series in the first half and wouldn't return after that. Whether that was according to plan or a result of Burns's effective play, we can't know.
I can't find the quote right now, but didn't Shaw say he initially planned to get Chryst in during the 3rd quarter, but the offense was having so much trouble that he didn't want to risk throwing a new quarterback in there? An interesting comment, because the new quarterback and his package of plays might have been capable of putting the offense back on track. Maybe the problems on offense weren't QB-related, but elsewhere, like O-line? Just idle speculation.
Quote:Chryst played just one series in the first half and wouldn't return after that. Whether that was according to plan or a result of Burns's effective play, we can't know.
I can't find the quote right now, but didn't Shaw say he initially planned to get Chryst in during the 3rd quarter, but the offense was having so much trouble that he didn't want to risk throwing a new quarterback in there? An interesting comment, because the new quarterback and his package of plays might have been capable of putting the offense back on track. Maybe the problems on offense weren't QB-related, but elsewhere, like O-line? Just idle speculation.
09-05-2016, 12:38 PM
I dunno, Burns went from throwing dimes to being off-target by yards in the 3d quarter. Something weird happened and I'm hoping it was an anomaly. Putting Chryst in might have helped, but it's hard to say since we ran so few plays.
09-05-2016, 01:04 PM
(09-05-2016, 12:31 PM)JJJ link Wrote:Quote:Chryst played just one series in the first half and wouldn't return after that. Whether that was according to plan or a result of Burns's effective play, we can't know.
I can't find the quote right now, but didn't Shaw say he initially planned to get Chryst in during the 3rd quarter, but the offense was having so much trouble that he didn't want to risk throwing a new quarterback in there? An interesting comment, because the new quarterback and his package of plays might have been capable of putting the offense back on track. Maybe the problems on offense weren't QB-related, but elsewhere, like O-line? Just idle speculation.
Yes, the oline did appear to have been a bit underwhelming Friday.
BC
(09-05-2016, 12:31 PM)JJJ link Wrote:Quote:Chryst played just one series in the first half and wouldn't return after that. Whether that was according to plan or a result of Burns's effective play, we can't know.
I can't find the quote right now, but didn't Shaw say he initially planned to get Chryst in during the 3rd quarter, but the offense was having so much trouble that he didn't want to risk throwing a new quarterback in there? An interesting comment, because the new quarterback and his package of plays might have been capable of putting the offense back on track. Maybe the problems on offense weren't QB-related, but elsewhere, like O-line? Just idle speculation.
Yes, the oline did appear to have been a bit underwhelming Friday.
BC
I didn't like Burns' body language at all throughout the game, and that bad feeling got worse once he started going off-target. But...the coaches know best. Chryst looked really comfortable--would have liked to have seen some more from him.
Oh, I forgot. ST coaching--two kickoff offsides, one blown onside kick reception...sigh.Â
I loved seeing K-State throwing left early during the first half...the sun was also coming from that direction for the receivers.
I don't know if anyone mentioned this earlier, but Reid Najvar (the KSU center?) is indeed the younger brother of TE Jordan Najvar, who spent a redshirt freshman year at Stanford before transferring to Baylor. Jordan is currently an offensive QC coach at Tulsa.
Oh, I forgot. ST coaching--two kickoff offsides, one blown onside kick reception...sigh.Â
I loved seeing K-State throwing left early during the first half...the sun was also coming from that direction for the receivers.
I don't know if anyone mentioned this earlier, but Reid Najvar (the KSU center?) is indeed the younger brother of TE Jordan Najvar, who spent a redshirt freshman year at Stanford before transferring to Baylor. Jordan is currently an offensive QC coach at Tulsa.
I didn't like Burns' body language at all throughout the game, and that bad feeling got worse once he started going off-target. But...the coaches know best. Chryst looked really comfortable--would have liked to have seen some more from him.
Oh, I forgot. ST coaching--two kickoff offsides, one blown onside kick reception...sigh.Â
I loved seeing K-State throwing left early during the first half...the sun was also coming from that direction for the receivers.
I don't know if anyone mentioned this earlier, but Reid Najvar (the KSU center?) is indeed the younger brother of TE Jordan Najvar, who spent a redshirt freshman year at Stanford before transferring to Baylor. Jordan is currently an offensive QC coach at Tulsa.
Oh, I forgot. ST coaching--two kickoff offsides, one blown onside kick reception...sigh.Â
I loved seeing K-State throwing left early during the first half...the sun was also coming from that direction for the receivers.
I don't know if anyone mentioned this earlier, but Reid Najvar (the KSU center?) is indeed the younger brother of TE Jordan Najvar, who spent a redshirt freshman year at Stanford before transferring to Baylor. Jordan is currently an offensive QC coach at Tulsa.
09-05-2016, 02:21 PM
(09-05-2016, 01:42 PM)fullmetal link Wrote:I didn't like Burns' body language at all throughout the game, and that bad feeling got worse once he started going off-target. .
What body language are you referring to?
(09-05-2016, 01:42 PM)fullmetal link Wrote:I didn't like Burns' body language at all throughout the game, and that bad feeling got worse once he started going off-target. .
What body language are you referring to?
09-05-2016, 02:57 PM
The constant resetting of his feet. So weird. I'm not as perturbed by the pitcher's kick he does.
09-05-2016, 04:43 PM
I indeed wondered about the KSU center. Thanks for the info.
Usually when people talk about "body language", they refer to physical manifestations of underlying emotional state. So, someone with slumped shoulders looking dejected might be projecting negative body language.
With regards to special teams: Ukropina was 1/1 with a 50 yard field goal, Bailey had 5 punts averaging 46 yards, two of which were downed within the 5 yard line. His 5 kickoffs resulted in 3 touchbacks and no good returns to my knowledge. Even the kickoff that was from 10 yards back due to the two offsides left KSU starting on their own 25, no worse than a touchback on the original kickoff. The blown onside kick was bad, mostly because we didn't anticipate it. But overall I feel as good for the special teams as any unit on this team.
BC
Usually when people talk about "body language", they refer to physical manifestations of underlying emotional state. So, someone with slumped shoulders looking dejected might be projecting negative body language.
With regards to special teams: Ukropina was 1/1 with a 50 yard field goal, Bailey had 5 punts averaging 46 yards, two of which were downed within the 5 yard line. His 5 kickoffs resulted in 3 touchbacks and no good returns to my knowledge. Even the kickoff that was from 10 yards back due to the two offsides left KSU starting on their own 25, no worse than a touchback on the original kickoff. The blown onside kick was bad, mostly because we didn't anticipate it. But overall I feel as good for the special teams as any unit on this team.
BC
I indeed wondered about the KSU center. Thanks for the info.
Usually when people talk about "body language", they refer to physical manifestations of underlying emotional state. So, someone with slumped shoulders looking dejected might be projecting negative body language.
With regards to special teams: Ukropina was 1/1 with a 50 yard field goal, Bailey had 5 punts averaging 46 yards, two of which were downed within the 5 yard line. His 5 kickoffs resulted in 3 touchbacks and no good returns to my knowledge. Even the kickoff that was from 10 yards back due to the two offsides left KSU starting on their own 25, no worse than a touchback on the original kickoff. The blown onside kick was bad, mostly because we didn't anticipate it. But overall I feel as good for the special teams as any unit on this team.
BC
Usually when people talk about "body language", they refer to physical manifestations of underlying emotional state. So, someone with slumped shoulders looking dejected might be projecting negative body language.
With regards to special teams: Ukropina was 1/1 with a 50 yard field goal, Bailey had 5 punts averaging 46 yards, two of which were downed within the 5 yard line. His 5 kickoffs resulted in 3 touchbacks and no good returns to my knowledge. Even the kickoff that was from 10 yards back due to the two offsides left KSU starting on their own 25, no worse than a touchback on the original kickoff. The blown onside kick was bad, mostly because we didn't anticipate it. But overall I feel as good for the special teams as any unit on this team.
BC
09-05-2016, 08:16 PM
In his post game presser Shaw said he loved the way the offensive line played in the first half, but get they had "left some things out there" in the second. Kind of sounds like he thought they were the problem.
Please clear the field! The game is not over!
09-05-2016, 08:28 PM
(09-05-2016, 08:16 PM)Hank 91 link Wrote:In his post game presser Shaw said he loved the way the offensive line played in the first half, but get they had "left some things out there" in the second. Kind of sounds like he thought they were the problem.
Well, I said this elsewhere, but after rewatching the game I think the second-half meltdown was because of 4 things:
1) The fumble. Fluky so not super concerning, practice that and don't screw it up any more.
2) Burns's accuracy got wonky in the second half. It didn't look to me like he was hurried on his inaccurate passes, but he was either delivering dimes or throwing it into the dirt/airmailing it, so something was weird. No close-but-no-cigar throws.
3) KSU's defense made some really great plays. Sometimes you do everything right and the other guy is just better.
4) The OL whiffed a few times. I don't think this is the same as #3, because there shouldn't be 3 guys behind the LOS to gang-tackle McCaffrey ever. Ever ever. That's on the OL.
Perhaps from a coach's point of view more of those problems were on the OL, perhaps enough were that he's fine just blaming them, perhaps it's a motivation tactic. Either way we have two weeks of practice to sort it out.
(09-05-2016, 08:16 PM)Hank 91 link Wrote:In his post game presser Shaw said he loved the way the offensive line played in the first half, but get they had "left some things out there" in the second. Kind of sounds like he thought they were the problem.
Well, I said this elsewhere, but after rewatching the game I think the second-half meltdown was because of 4 things:
1) The fumble. Fluky so not super concerning, practice that and don't screw it up any more.
2) Burns's accuracy got wonky in the second half. It didn't look to me like he was hurried on his inaccurate passes, but he was either delivering dimes or throwing it into the dirt/airmailing it, so something was weird. No close-but-no-cigar throws.
3) KSU's defense made some really great plays. Sometimes you do everything right and the other guy is just better.
4) The OL whiffed a few times. I don't think this is the same as #3, because there shouldn't be 3 guys behind the LOS to gang-tackle McCaffrey ever. Ever ever. That's on the OL.
Perhaps from a coach's point of view more of those problems were on the OL, perhaps enough were that he's fine just blaming them, perhaps it's a motivation tactic. Either way we have two weeks of practice to sort it out.
09-05-2016, 08:40 PM
Some credit should go to the KSU defense. They have some good players, and IMHO generally played sound, disciplined football. Save for Washington and maybe UCLA, we may not not see a defense this good for the rest of the regular season.
09-05-2016, 08:41 PM
(09-05-2016, 08:40 PM)pcgoode link Wrote:Some credit should go to the KSU defense. They have some good players, and IMHO generally played sound, disciplined football. Save for Washington and maybe UCLA, we may not not see a defense this good for the rest of the regular season.
I would guess Washington and ND, not UCLA, but neither of those two had good games.
(09-05-2016, 08:40 PM)pcgoode link Wrote:Some credit should go to the KSU defense. They have some good players, and IMHO generally played sound, disciplined football. Save for Washington and maybe UCLA, we may not not see a defense this good for the rest of the regular season.
I would guess Washington and ND, not UCLA, but neither of those two had good games.
09-05-2016, 08:50 PM
Notre Dame didn't look very good vs Texas last night. Their defensive line isn't nearly as good as it has been in the last couple of years, and their secondary, particularly at the safety positions, is very questionable.
09-05-2016, 08:59 PM
(09-05-2016, 08:50 PM)pcgoode link Wrote:UFDFG didn't look very good vs Texas last night. Their defensive line isn't nearly as good as it has been in the last couple of years, and their secondary, particularly at the safety positions, is very questionable.
They did give up more ypp than UCLA, but UCLA also got fewer ypp offensively so net they were about the same. Still, UCLA has a history of being pretty bad on defense whereas ND is usually pretty good, so I'm a bit more afraid of ND.
(09-05-2016, 08:50 PM)pcgoode link Wrote:UFDFG didn't look very good vs Texas last night. Their defensive line isn't nearly as good as it has been in the last couple of years, and their secondary, particularly at the safety positions, is very questionable.
They did give up more ypp than UCLA, but UCLA also got fewer ypp offensively so net they were about the same. Still, UCLA has a history of being pretty bad on defense whereas ND is usually pretty good, so I'm a bit more afraid of ND.
09-05-2016, 09:19 PM
Rosen might be getting a savior complex to where he tries too hard to be superman every play (since the rest of his team might be letting him down). That's exploitable.
BC: I figured that might happen when I decided to use that phrase, but it's not technically part of his throwing mechanics (maybe his footwork mechanics). But when he planted a thrown five feet behind a receiver's feet, I wondered about how nervous he really was. He did make some great zinging throws though.
BC: I figured that might happen when I decided to use that phrase, but it's not technically part of his throwing mechanics (maybe his footwork mechanics). But when he planted a thrown five feet behind a receiver's feet, I wondered about how nervous he really was. He did make some great zinging throws though.
Rosen might be getting a savior complex to where he tries too hard to be superman every play (since the rest of his team might be letting him down). That's exploitable.
BC: I figured that might happen when I decided to use that phrase, but it's not technically part of his throwing mechanics (maybe his footwork mechanics). But when he planted a thrown five feet behind a receiver's feet, I wondered about how nervous he really was. He did make some great zinging throws though.
BC: I figured that might happen when I decided to use that phrase, but it's not technically part of his throwing mechanics (maybe his footwork mechanics). But when he planted a thrown five feet behind a receiver's feet, I wondered about how nervous he really was. He did make some great zinging throws though.
09-06-2016, 12:46 PM
Wilner offers his grade: a B-
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegespor...sas-state/
It's a bit harsh, but not unfair. It was hardly a flawless game on our part, but it was a win over a decent P5 school. I do think his comments do not give the defense enough credit:
I mean, KSU isn't the most potent offense we will face all year, but eight sacks, two turnovers, and a safety is pretty darned good no matter who your opponent is. I doubt KSU will give up 8 sacks to any other team, and wile they might give up more turnovers, there won't be many games were they give up more. Bottom line, there's a pretty good chance that 13 points is KSU's low water mark, so I think the D deserves more credit than Wilner gave it.
BC
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegespor...sas-state/
It's a bit harsh, but not unfair. It was hardly a flawless game on our part, but it was a win over a decent P5 school. I do think his comments do not give the defense enough credit:
Quote:The Cardinal kept KSU out of the end zone until the final minutes, had eight sacks, forced two turnovers and recorded a safety.
But much of that success was rooted in the Wildcats ineptitude. They lack a high-end playmaker and have little in the way of a downfield passing game to punish defenses for overplaying the run.
My guess is that Stanfords defense will be good-to-very good this season, depending on the health of the defensive line.
I mean, KSU isn't the most potent offense we will face all year, but eight sacks, two turnovers, and a safety is pretty darned good no matter who your opponent is. I doubt KSU will give up 8 sacks to any other team, and wile they might give up more turnovers, there won't be many games were they give up more. Bottom line, there's a pretty good chance that 13 points is KSU's low water mark, so I think the D deserves more credit than Wilner gave it.
BC
Wilner offers his grade: a B-
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegespor...sas-state/
It's a bit harsh, but not unfair. It was hardly a flawless game on our part, but it was a win over a decent P5 school. I do think his comments do not give the defense enough credit:
I mean, KSU isn't the most potent offense we will face all year, but eight sacks, two turnovers, and a safety is pretty darned good no matter who your opponent is. I doubt KSU will give up 8 sacks to any other team, and wile they might give up more turnovers, there won't be many games were they give up more. Bottom line, there's a pretty good chance that 13 points is KSU's low water mark, so I think the D deserves more credit than Wilner gave it.
BC
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegespor...sas-state/
It's a bit harsh, but not unfair. It was hardly a flawless game on our part, but it was a win over a decent P5 school. I do think his comments do not give the defense enough credit:
Quote:The Cardinal kept KSU out of the end zone until the final minutes, had eight sacks, forced two turnovers and recorded a safety.
But much of that success was rooted in the Wildcats ineptitude. They lack a high-end playmaker and have little in the way of a downfield passing game to punish defenses for overplaying the run.
My guess is that Stanfords defense will be good-to-very good this season, depending on the health of the defensive line.
I mean, KSU isn't the most potent offense we will face all year, but eight sacks, two turnovers, and a safety is pretty darned good no matter who your opponent is. I doubt KSU will give up 8 sacks to any other team, and wile they might give up more turnovers, there won't be many games were they give up more. Bottom line, there's a pretty good chance that 13 points is KSU's low water mark, so I think the D deserves more credit than Wilner gave it.
BC
09-06-2016, 01:36 PM
Wilner's comment that the 'cats had no downfield passing game is a classic in why early-season polls are so useless. Did they have no downfield passing game because of Ertz and their wideouts, or because of the DBs' lockdown defense? Obviously I think the former but if you've got a strong position on the issue you're doing it wrong.
Wilner's comment that the 'cats had no downfield passing game is a classic in why early-season polls are so useless. Did they have no downfield passing game because of Ertz and their wideouts, or because of the DBs' lockdown defense? Obviously I think the former but if you've got a strong position on the issue you're doing it wrong.
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