[lex24]

This was their first win against a good team. Given that they had played poorly last couple weeks, this was quite a turnaround. Always good to see Leach get smoked.

Add another interception.

ןɐɔ's only losses this year were U$C, at UW and at Oregon. Havent lost to anyone bad.

[lex24]

This was their first win against a good team. Given that they had played poorly last couple weeks, this was quite a turnaround. Always good to see Leach get smoked.

Add another interception.

ןɐɔ's only losses this year were U$C, at UW and at Oregon. Havent lost to anyone bad.

[GoodGrief]

Now 27-3. Who could have predicted this?

OutsiderFan can make a legitimate claim to that

[GoodGrief]

Now 27-3. Who could have predicted this?

OutsiderFan can make a legitimate claim to that

[Snorlax94]

What a fun game! My only gripe is that I swear I have been feeling Wazoo could be exposed and I'm just disappointed that someone already has done that.

Although I almost never root for ןɐɔ, I gotta say, congrats to them. They clearly deserved the win in every way possible. Incredible preparation.
Heart. Physicality. And they made the plays they had to every time, with some plays that should make the Pac-12 highlight reel of the season (after a ton of Bryce Love runs, of course).

[Snorlax94]

What a fun game! My only gripe is that I swear I have been feeling Wazoo could be exposed and I'm just disappointed that someone already has done that.

Although I almost never root for ןɐɔ, I gotta say, congrats to them. They clearly deserved the win in every way possible. Incredible preparation.
Heart. Physicality. And they made the plays they had to every time, with some plays that should make the Pac-12 highlight reel of the season (after a ton of Bryce Love runs, of course).

[JohnR34231]

[quote author=JPRI link=topic=17684.msg206136#msg206136 date=1507958772]

Now 27-3. Who could have predicted this?

OutsiderFan can make a legitimate claim to that
[/quote]

Did he predict a 34 point loss for the Cougs against Kal? If he did I missed it. I seem to recall him saying he thought they would get "exposed" but I didn't interpret that as a 34 point loss to Kal.

[JohnR34231]

[quote author=JPRI link=topic=17684.msg206136#msg206136 date=1507958772]

Now 27-3. Who could have predicted this?

OutsiderFan can make a legitimate claim to that
[/quote]

Did he predict a 34 point loss for the Cougs against Kal? If he did I missed it. I seem to recall him saying he thought they would get "exposed" but I didn't interpret that as a 34 point loss to Kal.

[qwerty49]

Watching C.al run out the clock, with Wazzu stacked in the box and C.al still making yards, made me smile at the thought of Love going through some of those holes.  C.al's RBs look pretty slow to hit the hole, but so does everyone else, compared to Bryce.

The Son of Zeus is a player -- at 245, I wonder how long he can last at DT.  You'd think they would put him at LB.

[qwerty49]

Watching C.al run out the clock, with Wazzu stacked in the box and C.al still making yards, made me smile at the thought of Love going through some of those holes.  C.al's RBs look pretty slow to hit the hole, but so does everyone else, compared to Bryce.

The Son of Zeus is a player -- at 245, I wonder how long he can last at DT.  You'd think they would put him at LB.

[JohnR34231]

Watching C.al run out the clock, with Wazzu stacked in the box and C.al still making yards, made me smile at the thought of Love going through some of those holes.  C.al's RBs look pretty slow to hit the hole, but so does everyone else, compared to Bryce.

The Son of Zeus is a player -- at 245, I wonder how long he can last at DT.  You'd think they would put him at LB.

The game reminded me a little of our game with Washington last year. A top ten team goes into a Friday night game at a conference opponent's locale and basically gets their butts handed to them.
The difference, of course, is that Washington hadn't lost three straight prior to our playing them.

[JohnR34231]

Watching C.al run out the clock, with Wazzu stacked in the box and C.al still making yards, made me smile at the thought of Love going through some of those holes.  C.al's RBs look pretty slow to hit the hole, but so does everyone else, compared to Bryce.

The Son of Zeus is a player -- at 245, I wonder how long he can last at DT.  You'd think they would put him at LB.

The game reminded me a little of our game with Washington last year. A top ten team goes into a Friday night game at a conference opponent's locale and basically gets their butts handed to them.
The difference, of course, is that Washington hadn't lost three straight prior to our playing them.

[ChicagoCard]

The Son of Zeus is a player -- at 245, I wonder how long he can last at DT.  You'd think they would put him at LB.

Are you referring to Hercules Mata'afa?

[ChicagoCard]

The Son of Zeus is a player -- at 245, I wonder how long he can last at DT.  You'd think they would put him at LB.

Are you referring to Hercules Mata'afa?

[OutsiderFan]

Wilcox is a great coach in the making.  The evidence is becoming difficult to deny.

I know a lot of people here don't put stock in what coaches say in press conferences, but go watch the Wilcox post-game presser after Washington last week.  You will be a lot less surprised about the WSU upset after watching it.

[OutsiderFan]

Wilcox is a great coach in the making.  The evidence is becoming difficult to deny.

I know a lot of people here don't put stock in what coaches say in press conferences, but go watch the Wilcox post-game presser after Washington last week.  You will be a lot less surprised about the WSU upset after watching it.

[JohnR34231]

Wilcox is a great coach in the making.  The evidence is becoming difficult to deny.

I know a lot of people here don't put stock in what coaches say in press conferences, but go watch the Wilcox post-game presser after Washington last week.  You will be a lot less surprised about the WSU upset after watching it.

I'll certainly give Wilcox credit for one thing. He has assembled (as I have said before) what I feel to be an excellent staff.
I wasn't overly surprised at the WSU upset, but I was certainly surprised at the margin of victory.

[JohnR34231]

Wilcox is a great coach in the making.  The evidence is becoming difficult to deny.

I know a lot of people here don't put stock in what coaches say in press conferences, but go watch the Wilcox post-game presser after Washington last week.  You will be a lot less surprised about the WSU upset after watching it.

I'll certainly give Wilcox credit for one thing. He has assembled (as I have said before) what I feel to be an excellent staff.
I wasn't overly surprised at the WSU upset, but I was certainly surprised at the margin of victory.

[qwerty49]

[quote author=qwerty49 link=topic=17684.msg206156#msg206156 date=1507975950]
The Son of Zeus is a player -- at 245, I wonder how long he can last at DT.  You'd think they would put him at LB.

Are you referring to Hercules Mata'afa?
[/quote]

Yep. Just quoting the signs Wazzu fans were holding up.

[qwerty49]

[quote author=qwerty49 link=topic=17684.msg206156#msg206156 date=1507975950]
The Son of Zeus is a player -- at 245, I wonder how long he can last at DT.  You'd think they would put him at LB.

Are you referring to Hercules Mata'afa?
[/quote]

Yep. Just quoting the signs Wazzu fans were holding up.

[Roberton3]

[quote author=JPRI link=topic=17684.msg206136#msg206136 date=1507958772]

Now 27-3. Who could have predicted this?

OutsiderFan can make a legitimate claim to that
[/quote]

He’s predicted 6 of the last 2 Kal victories...

[Roberton3]

[quote author=JPRI link=topic=17684.msg206136#msg206136 date=1507958772]

Now 27-3. Who could have predicted this?

OutsiderFan can make a legitimate claim to that
[/quote]

He’s predicted 6 of the last 2 Kal victories...

[fullmetal]

That kal defensive staff must have had their kids prepped and ready to play.  They're doing something right over there.  Stanford needs to be ready; it's going to be a tough Big Game this year.

[fullmetal]

That kal defensive staff must have had their kids prepped and ready to play.  They're doing something right over there.  Stanford needs to be ready; it's going to be a tough Big Game this year.

[Hank 91]

That TD by Bowers with the gymnastic vault was crazy.  Bares are playing fired up football.
Wonder if Falk has some kind of undisclosed injury; he has had a horrible night.

If you haven't seen this touchdown, find it. Play of the year.

[Hank 91]

That TD by Bowers with the gymnastic vault was crazy.  Bares are playing fired up football.
Wonder if Falk has some kind of undisclosed injury; he has had a horrible night.

If you haven't seen this touchdown, find it. Play of the year.

[Hank 91]

Okay, here it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6yRDw4dWH0

[Hank 91]

Okay, here it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6yRDw4dWH0

[ChicagoCard]

I wonder with a result like this for Wash St how much other teams can apply from whatever ןɐɔ's defensive coaches did against the Wash St offense (should have stated that in the form of a question)...

[ChicagoCard]

I wonder with a result like this for Wash St how much other teams can apply from whatever ןɐɔ's defensive coaches did against the Wash St offense (should have stated that in the form of a question)...

[OutsiderFan]

I wonder with a result like this for Wash St how much other teams can apply from whatever ןɐɔ's defensive coaches did against the Wash St offense (should have stated that in the form of a question)...

Love this topic...

It's almost cliche for pundits to say "did this provide a blue print" when an upset happens.  But let's be clear, there is a big difference between say Syracuse upsetting Clemson by 3pts, and ןɐɔ absolutely annihilating the Cougs by 34.

ןɐɔ in fact did provide a blue print, IMO.  They don't play man-to-man, bring extra blitzers-oriented defense, like say Oregon does.  And they play a 3-4 defense that relies on more LBs than DL.  Given Leach doesn't run much, when a defense confuses the OL and QB with different zone blitz and coverage looks, it can be very difficult on the Air Raid offense.

IMO, with what ןɐɔ exposed, Leach is going to have some trouble unless he can establish a real running threat, against other 3-4 teams they will face.  Stanford also plays a 2 DL look.  Stanford hasn't been using as much of a variety of blitzes as ןɐɔ uses, but there is no reason to think Anderson won't be using the same tactics against the Cougs now. 

ןɐɔ rarely rushes more than 4 guys, but brings LBs, Safeties, and Corners from all directions.  Stanford is equipped to do exactly the same thing to the Cougs that ןɐɔ did. 

[OutsiderFan]

I wonder with a result like this for Wash St how much other teams can apply from whatever ןɐɔ's defensive coaches did against the Wash St offense (should have stated that in the form of a question)...

Love this topic...

It's almost cliche for pundits to say "did this provide a blue print" when an upset happens.  But let's be clear, there is a big difference between say Syracuse upsetting Clemson by 3pts, and ןɐɔ absolutely annihilating the Cougs by 34.

ןɐɔ in fact did provide a blue print, IMO.  They don't play man-to-man, bring extra blitzers-oriented defense, like say Oregon does.  And they play a 3-4 defense that relies on more LBs than DL.  Given Leach doesn't run much, when a defense confuses the OL and QB with different zone blitz and coverage looks, it can be very difficult on the Air Raid offense.

IMO, with what ןɐɔ exposed, Leach is going to have some trouble unless he can establish a real running threat, against other 3-4 teams they will face.  Stanford also plays a 2 DL look.  Stanford hasn't been using as much of a variety of blitzes as ןɐɔ uses, but there is no reason to think Anderson won't be using the same tactics against the Cougs now. 

ןɐɔ rarely rushes more than 4 guys, but brings LBs, Safeties, and Corners from all directions.  Stanford is equipped to do exactly the same thing to the Cougs that ןɐɔ did. 

[BostonCard]

What I was surprised about is how routinely Cal managed to pressure Falk.  They sacked him something like seven times, frequently without blitzing, and often just using stunts up front.  That typically doesn’t work against WSU because Falk gets rid of the ball so quickly with a lot of quick dink and dunk passes, and twists and stunts take a little bit longer to develop.  Last night, Falk looked like a statue out there (a bit like Halliday did against us a few years ago, when we knocked him out of the game).  I was surprised, but good for Cal for pulling it off.

Cal will go bowling this year and with games against Colorado, Arizona coming up Big Game may feature a battle of two Bowl-eligible teams.

BC

BC

[BostonCard]

What I was surprised about is how routinely Cal managed to pressure Falk.  They sacked him something like seven times, frequently without blitzing, and often just using stunts up front.  That typically doesn’t work against WSU because Falk gets rid of the ball so quickly with a lot of quick dink and dunk passes, and twists and stunts take a little bit longer to develop.  Last night, Falk looked like a statue out there (a bit like Halliday did against us a few years ago, when we knocked him out of the game).  I was surprised, but good for Cal for pulling it off.

Cal will go bowling this year and with games against Colorado, Arizona coming up Big Game may feature a battle of two Bowl-eligible teams.

BC

BC

[JohnR34231]

[quote author=thunder_chik link=topic=17684.msg206145#msg206145 date=1507960755]
That TD by Bowers with the gymnastic vault was crazy.  Bares are playing fired up football.
Wonder if Falk has some kind of undisclosed injury; he has had a horrible night.

If you haven't seen this touchdown, find it. Play of the year.
[/quote]

It's becoming a trademark play of Bowers when his teams win a big game. He did it when his team won in the finals of the Washington HS playoffs. Since mom used to be the gymnastics coach at Washington, he had a good instructor.

[JohnR34231]

[quote author=thunder_chik link=topic=17684.msg206145#msg206145 date=1507960755]
That TD by Bowers with the gymnastic vault was crazy.  Bares are playing fired up football.
Wonder if Falk has some kind of undisclosed injury; he has had a horrible night.

If you haven't seen this touchdown, find it. Play of the year.
[/quote]

It's becoming a trademark play of Bowers when his teams win a big game. He did it when his team won in the finals of the Washington HS playoffs. Since mom used to be the gymnastics coach at Washington, he had a good instructor.

[BostonCard]

He didn’t stick the landing.

BC

[BostonCard]

He didn’t stick the landing.

BC

[JohnR34231]

He didn’t stick the landing.

BC

Mom probably called up and gave him hell for that.

[JohnR34231]

He didn’t stick the landing.

BC

Mom probably called up and gave him hell for that.