[Phogge]

The Elway to Margerum original reversal film(A and B rolls) that we shot for the Stanford recruiting and commercials sits in my film vault. Top shot at 32 FPS and ground shot at 100fps. The clip in this thread was from the game tape at normal speed (29.976, NTSC). We used Don Klein’s radio call which needed some room tone to lengthen.

[Phogge]

The Elway to Margerum original reversal film(A and B rolls) that we shot for the Stanford recruiting and commercials sits in my film vault. Top shot at 32 FPS and ground shot at 100fps. The clip in this thread was from the game tape at normal speed (29.976, NTSC). We used Don Klein’s radio call which needed some room tone to lengthen.

[dtlax]

I remember the great throw from Elway to KM as being a close game, not a pounding.

[dtlax]

I remember the great throw from Elway to KM as being a close game, not a pounding.

[Red State1]

I remember the great throw from Elway to KM as being a close game, not a pounding.

34-9 USC. Stanford missed the XP after their TD. Stanford's FG came after forcing a TO deep in SC territory just before halftime. Stanford was lucky to score 9 points. It was a brutal, physical beat-down. The word before the game was that USC was looking to take no prisoners after blowing a 21-0 halftime lead the year before. They didn't.

[Red State1]

I remember the great throw from Elway to KM as being a close game, not a pounding.

34-9 USC. Stanford missed the XP after their TD. Stanford's FG came after forcing a TO deep in SC territory just before halftime. Stanford was lucky to score 9 points. It was a brutal, physical beat-down. The word before the game was that USC was looking to take no prisoners after blowing a 21-0 halftime lead the year before. They didn't.

[barrister7]

However Margerum was a great hurdler   That takes speed

The first time I heard of Trent Irwin was reading Parade Magazine"s high school All American team where Trent was paired
with the other AA receiver, one Arcega-Whitesides.  I whooped with the idea of both of these players coming to the Farm.
Obviously, with hindsight, my enthusiasm was warranted.

[barrister7]

However Margerum was a great hurdler   That takes speed

The first time I heard of Trent Irwin was reading Parade Magazine"s high school All American team where Trent was paired
with the other AA receiver, one Arcega-Whitesides.  I whooped with the idea of both of these players coming to the Farm.
Obviously, with hindsight, my enthusiasm was warranted.

[dtlax]

Yes, the “throw” game was a beat down, I was thinking of the 78 game (13-7?), I apologize. I think I remember after the KM touchdown Lott strip fumbled V White for 6. He was angry evidently.

[dtlax]

Yes, the “throw” game was a beat down, I was thinking of the 78 game (13-7?), I apologize. I think I remember after the KM touchdown Lott strip fumbled V White for 6. He was angry evidently.

[lex24]

He also pitched once in a blue moon. I did play by play at Kal-X. Was doing a Stanford-UCB game at Cal, Elway came in from right to pitch. It was a situation that called for a strikeout. I don’t remember exactly, but something like second and third no one out. Elway did get a strikeout. Surrounded by a couple wild pitches. Let’s just say his command was a bit “limited.”

BTW, best throw I ever witnessed personally was by Ellis Valentine. Game at Candlestick. He raced to catch a foul ball down the RF line right around the bullpen mound, spun and threw an absolute rocket to the plate to nail a Giant runner tagging from third.

I also saw, but on TV, the Ichiro throw his rookie year to nail a fast A’s runner going from first to third on a single. Laser beam. That got around the league fast. Amazing player.

Great arms from outfielders. Don’t see them much anymore.

As all know Elway played RF for Stanford   And a season in the Yankee farm system.

I remember the great scouting report:  average arm.    Hope that scout didn’t go far

Best RF arm in person:  the Giants Downtown Ollie Brown.  Brother and I went early his first game just to watch  warmups.   Then there was Roberto Clemente. Wow. And for Class of 75 Carl Furillo

[lex24]

He also pitched once in a blue moon. I did play by play at Kal-X. Was doing a Stanford-UCB game at Cal, Elway came in from right to pitch. It was a situation that called for a strikeout. I don’t remember exactly, but something like second and third no one out. Elway did get a strikeout. Surrounded by a couple wild pitches. Let’s just say his command was a bit “limited.”

BTW, best throw I ever witnessed personally was by Ellis Valentine. Game at Candlestick. He raced to catch a foul ball down the RF line right around the bullpen mound, spun and threw an absolute rocket to the plate to nail a Giant runner tagging from third.

I also saw, but on TV, the Ichiro throw his rookie year to nail a fast A’s runner going from first to third on a single. Laser beam. That got around the league fast. Amazing player.

Great arms from outfielders. Don’t see them much anymore.

As all know Elway played RF for Stanford   And a season in the Yankee farm system.

I remember the great scouting report:  average arm.    Hope that scout didn’t go far

Best RF arm in person:  the Giants Downtown Ollie Brown.  Brother and I went early his first game just to watch  warmups.   Then there was Roberto Clemente. Wow. And for Class of 75 Carl Furillo

[qwerty49]

BTW, best throw I ever witnessed personally was by Ellis Valentine. Game at Candlestick.  He raced to catch a foul ball down the RF line right around the bullpen mound, spun and threw an absolute rocket to the plate to nail a Giant runner tagging from third.

LOL I played in a pseudo-serious softball league in the late 70's and one year the guys started calling an outfield assist a "Valentine."  For a few years there the Expos had Warren Cromartie, Andre Dawson and Ellis Valentine patrolling the OF and they didn't get run on very often.  I looked it up and in 1978 Valentine and Cromartie tied for the MLB lead with 24 assists each, while Dawson had 17.

But apparently those stats are even kept by position, and as late as 2014 the all-time assists leader from RF was still Clemente with 260.  Aaron was 2nd with 186.

[qwerty49]

BTW, best throw I ever witnessed personally was by Ellis Valentine. Game at Candlestick.  He raced to catch a foul ball down the RF line right around the bullpen mound, spun and threw an absolute rocket to the plate to nail a Giant runner tagging from third.

LOL I played in a pseudo-serious softball league in the late 70's and one year the guys started calling an outfield assist a "Valentine."  For a few years there the Expos had Warren Cromartie, Andre Dawson and Ellis Valentine patrolling the OF and they didn't get run on very often.  I looked it up and in 1978 Valentine and Cromartie tied for the MLB lead with 24 assists each, while Dawson had 17.

But apparently those stats are even kept by position, and as late as 2014 the all-time assists leader from RF was still Clemente with 260.  Aaron was 2nd with 186.

[Langdude]

I remember Carmelo Martinez (Padres) catching an attempted sac fly in left field fowl foul territory, deep, with Pete Rose on third and one out. Everyone was saying, "Oh, rookie mistake. He should have let it drop." But he knew what he was doing. He immediately threw an absolute rope to Terry Kennedy at home plate, beating Rose, who was no slouch on the base paths.

And he didn't even have the best arm in the outfield. That belonged to the fella over in right.

-m.

[Langdude]

I remember Carmelo Martinez (Padres) catching an attempted sac fly in left field fowl foul territory, deep, with Pete Rose on third and one out. Everyone was saying, "Oh, rookie mistake. He should have let it drop." But he knew what he was doing. He immediately threw an absolute rope to Terry Kennedy at home plate, beating Rose, who was no slouch on the base paths.

And he didn't even have the best arm in the outfield. That belonged to the fella over in right.

-m.

[BobK]

As a HS Sr Elway pitched his team to the LA City championship. I don’t remember if it was the final out or not but he struck out Daryl Strawberry

[BobK]

As a HS Sr Elway pitched his team to the LA City championship. I don’t remember if it was the final out or not but he struck out Daryl Strawberry

[Class_of_75]

As a HS Sr Elway pitched his team to the LA City championship.     I don’t remember if it was the final out or not but he struck out Daryl Strawberry

Bob, here's a story on Elway's pitching stint in the LA City Championship game. Thanks for the mention of Furillo in one of your previous posts!
http://articles.latimes.com/1999/jun/06/sports/sp-44878

[Class_of_75]

As a HS Sr Elway pitched his team to the LA City championship.     I don’t remember if it was the final out or not but he struck out Daryl Strawberry

Bob, here's a story on Elway's pitching stint in the LA City Championship game. Thanks for the mention of Furillo in one of your previous posts!
http://articles.latimes.com/1999/jun/06/sports/sp-44878

[BobK]

Thanks much.
Chris Brown the former Giant who once missed a game, true story, because he slept on the wrong eye.

[BobK]

Thanks much.
Chris Brown the former Giant who once missed a game, true story, because he slept on the wrong eye.

[Langdude]

I remember Carmelo Martinez (Padres) catching an attempted sac fly in left field fowl territory, 

Did he duck? Or was he too chicken?

Ha! I seem to do that a lot. Plaque on the brain. Now fixed.

I must have been thinking of the famous San Diego Chicken!

-m.

[Langdude]

I remember Carmelo Martinez (Padres) catching an attempted sac fly in left field fowl territory, 

Did he duck? Or was he too chicken?

Ha! I seem to do that a lot. Plaque on the brain. Now fixed.

I must have been thinking of the famous San Diego Chicken!

-m.

[CowboyIndian]

I must have been thinking of the famous San Diego Chicken!

Mine now deleted.

[CowboyIndian]

I must have been thinking of the famous San Diego Chicken!

Mine now deleted.

[Mick]

Thanks much.
Chris Brown the former Giant who once missed a game, true story, because he slept on the wrong eye.

He actually had an eye infection and didn't quite know how to verbalize it.

[Mick]

Thanks much.
Chris Brown the former Giant who once missed a game, true story, because he slept on the wrong eye.

He actually had an eye infection and didn't quite know how to verbalize it.

[CornFed]

Or that is the explanation the Giants publicist used to mitigate a lame excuse.  :-)

[CornFed]

Or that is the explanation the Giants publicist used to mitigate a lame excuse.  :-)

[Mick]

Or that is the explanation the Giants publicist used to mitigate a lame excuse.  :-)

Actually, it didn't happen with the Giants, it happened when he was on the Padres, and Brown didn't make the comment, hard-guy manager Larry Bowa did.  Some reporter asked Bowa why Chris Brown wasn't playing and Bowa replied "Oh, he slept on his eye wrong," when in fact Brown had an eye infection and couldn't see well enough to bat.  But no reporter asked Brown about it.

http://www.thedeadballera.com/Obits/Obit....Obit.html

What happened on the Giants was that Brown claimed a sore shoulder, and the initial exam turned up no serious injury.  So the Giants thought he was a malingerer.  During the off-season, it was found by none other than famed orthopedist Dr. Frank Jobe that he did in fact have a serious shoulder injury that required surgery.  The Giants didn't acknowledge the injury when they traded him to the Padres the next season.

https://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/Ex...756775.php

Funny that Bowa tried to frame Brown as unmanly, yet Brown ended up driving a truck in Iraq.

[Mick]

Or that is the explanation the Giants publicist used to mitigate a lame excuse.  :-)

Actually, it didn't happen with the Giants, it happened when he was on the Padres, and Brown didn't make the comment, hard-guy manager Larry Bowa did.  Some reporter asked Bowa why Chris Brown wasn't playing and Bowa replied "Oh, he slept on his eye wrong," when in fact Brown had an eye infection and couldn't see well enough to bat.  But no reporter asked Brown about it.

http://www.thedeadballera.com/Obits/Obit....Obit.html

What happened on the Giants was that Brown claimed a sore shoulder, and the initial exam turned up no serious injury.  So the Giants thought he was a malingerer.  During the off-season, it was found by none other than famed orthopedist Dr. Frank Jobe that he did in fact have a serious shoulder injury that required surgery.  The Giants didn't acknowledge the injury when they traded him to the Padres the next season.

https://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/Ex...756775.php

Funny that Bowa tried to frame Brown as unmanly, yet Brown ended up driving a truck in Iraq.

[BobK]

Actually Brown was with the Giants when he slept on the wrong eye

[BobK]

Actually Brown was with the Giants when he slept on the wrong eye

[Mick]

Actually Brown was with the Giants when he slept on the wrong eye

SI Seemed to think it was in the Dominican Republic.

https://www.si.com/vault/2004/07/12/3764...questioned

The L. A. Times seems to think that Bowa made the comment when he was the manager and Chris Brown was with the Padres:

http://www.thedeadballera.com/Obits/Obit....Obit.html

[Mick]

Actually Brown was with the Giants when he slept on the wrong eye

SI Seemed to think it was in the Dominican Republic.

https://www.si.com/vault/2004/07/12/3764...questioned

The L. A. Times seems to think that Bowa made the comment when he was the manager and Chris Brown was with the Padres:

http://www.thedeadballera.com/Obits/Obit....Obit.html