06-26-2019, 06:46 PM
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She is a 2021. Top 10 player. I’ve seen her 3 times and she is awesome
She is a 2021. Top 10 player. I’ve seen her 3 times and she is awesome
(06-26-2019, 09:00 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(06-26-2019, 08:57 PM)81alum Wrote: Fabulous. At least one top 10 player every year for three years. That is the kind of recruiting that championships are made out of.
Even better... I believe they (Jones in 2019, Brink in 2020, and now Demtre in 2021) are all top-5 players.
BC
(06-26-2019, 09:00 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(06-26-2019, 08:57 PM)81alum Wrote: Fabulous. At least one top 10 player every year for three years. That is the kind of recruiting that championships are made out of.
Even better... I believe they (Jones in 2019, Brink in 2020, and now Demtre in 2021) are all top-5 players.
BC
(06-27-2019, 08:13 AM)2006alum Wrote: Fun to think as far out as 2022, but I'm focused on this season for now. Let's assume that Williams and Carrington are set for the backcourt and every other position is open for a starter given the injury status of Fingall and Dodson. So we're basically looking for a shooting guard/wing, a wing/forward, and a forward/center, out of: Fingall (S), Wilson (S), Brewer (S), Dodson (J), Jerome (J), Moschkau (J), Lacie (S), Lexie (S), Brown (S), Jones (F), Belibi (F), Prechtel (F), and Jump (F).
It's really odd to say this, but because both of the Hulls are kind of tweeners, I could see a world in which they saw their most average playing time per game in their frosh seasons. I'm struggling to see how you keep them in instead of Jones, Belibi, and Prechtel, assuming they develop enough defensively for Tara to be happy keeping them in on both sides of the court. And especially when we don't know the injury status of Fingall and Dodson, what we really need is a defensive big in the paint, which either Belibi or Prechtel can function as. The Hulls have great motors and are solid backcourt defenders, but a lineup with them guarding the paint won't work given their limited height and slight frames. And I feel like Wilson, especially if she stays healthy, seemed to surge defensively by the end of the season, and given that she's a senior who has worked oh-so-hard to get back into playing shape, if Tara rewards any of our upperclassmen with the shooting guard/wing spot, I feel like it'd be her?
So we're basically looking at some combo of Wilson/Hull/Hull/Jones at the 3, Jones/Belibi/Jerome/Fingall at the 4, and Dodson/Fingall/Prechtel/Belibi at the 5. Out of all those combos, I have a hard time seeing either Hull maintain a spot in the starting lineup by March assuming Jones develops as we hope/expect she will.
(06-27-2019, 08:13 AM)2006alum Wrote: Fun to think as far out as 2022, but I'm focused on this season for now. Let's assume that Williams and Carrington are set for the backcourt and every other position is open for a starter given the injury status of Fingall and Dodson. So we're basically looking for a shooting guard/wing, a wing/forward, and a forward/center, out of: Fingall (S), Wilson (S), Brewer (S), Dodson (J), Jerome (J), Moschkau (J), Lacie (S), Lexie (S), Brown (S), Jones (F), Belibi (F), Prechtel (F), and Jump (F).
It's really odd to say this, but because both of the Hulls are kind of tweeners, I could see a world in which they saw their most average playing time per game in their frosh seasons. I'm struggling to see how you keep them in instead of Jones, Belibi, and Prechtel, assuming they develop enough defensively for Tara to be happy keeping them in on both sides of the court. And especially when we don't know the injury status of Fingall and Dodson, what we really need is a defensive big in the paint, which either Belibi or Prechtel can function as. The Hulls have great motors and are solid backcourt defenders, but a lineup with them guarding the paint won't work given their limited height and slight frames. And I feel like Wilson, especially if she stays healthy, seemed to surge defensively by the end of the season, and given that she's a senior who has worked oh-so-hard to get back into playing shape, if Tara rewards any of our upperclassmen with the shooting guard/wing spot, I feel like it'd be her?
So we're basically looking at some combo of Wilson/Hull/Hull/Jones at the 3, Jones/Belibi/Jerome/Fingall at the 4, and Dodson/Fingall/Prechtel/Belibi at the 5. Out of all those combos, I have a hard time seeing either Hull maintain a spot in the starting lineup by March assuming Jones develops as we hope/expect she will.
(06-27-2019, 10:59 AM)BobK Wrote: Carrington still in the full knee braceIt is a real conundrum to figure out the lineup. But:
Bet she doesn’t play the 2. 3/4 yes :)
(06-27-2019, 10:59 AM)BobK Wrote: Carrington still in the full knee braceIt is a real conundrum to figure out the lineup. But:
Bet she doesn’t play the 2. 3/4 yes :)
(06-27-2019, 07:51 AM)BosCard Wrote: I think we would need a PG so:
PG - Van Gytenbeek
Wing - Jones
Wing - Demetre
PF - Belibi
C - Brink
That is a really big and versatile team.
(06-27-2019, 07:51 AM)BosCard Wrote: I think we would need a PG so:
PG - Van Gytenbeek
Wing - Jones
Wing - Demetre
PF - Belibi
C - Brink
That is a really big and versatile team.
(06-27-2019, 01:01 PM)81alum Wrote:(06-27-2019, 10:59 AM)BobK Wrote: Carrington still in the full knee braceIt is a real conundrum to figure out the lineup. But:
Bet she doesn’t play the 2. 3/4 yes :)
1) As Bob notes, injuries may have a lot to do with it. Carrington, Fingall, Dodson, Lexie, and who knows who else may all be limited due to wear and tear.
2) Tara is not a very starter-oriented coach. She will start the season with a large rotation and that rotation will gradually shrink as players sort themselves out via their play. Against Idaho last year, the second game of the season, 10 players got 10 minutes or more. Against Notre Dame it was 7 players. This year our rotation could start off even larger but will probably get down to 7 by the end.
3) Tara is quite situational according to match ups. Carrington has played the 4--she is plenty physical and not small. Bonnie played the stretch 4 against certain opponents. Coffee had an important role against Baylor. Tara will go small or go big, and sometimes do both just to discombobulate the opposing offense that won't know quite what to expect. A bit like switching from man to zone to interrupt their flow. So there could be some "specialists" that play depending on the opposition.
4) Looking at the end of last season is instructive. Carrington was more effective than earlier in the year but was losing minutes--she was wearing out. Lacie had at times been one of our best perimeter defenders but was victimized late and Lexie resumed taking the lion's share of the wing minutes by the end.
5) If we stay in the Princeton, as seems to make sense with Jones coming on, the 5 sits on the elbow with 1-4 all interchangeably shuffling through their progressions. But will Tara stay with this offense given the personnel she has now? If she does, then figuring out people's numbered positions are not very important on the offensive end.
I do think that if Lexie is fully healthy and gets back to form she is going to have a lot of minutes. She should become the next McPhee and I think she will. She has too much offensive potential to leave her out. And #14 isn't a bad ranking, even if it is not top 5. Lacie is the one who might suffer declining minutes. She already was at the end of the season as Lexie got healthier.
(06-27-2019, 01:01 PM)81alum Wrote:(06-27-2019, 10:59 AM)BobK Wrote: Carrington still in the full knee braceIt is a real conundrum to figure out the lineup. But:
Bet she doesn’t play the 2. 3/4 yes :)
1) As Bob notes, injuries may have a lot to do with it. Carrington, Fingall, Dodson, Lexie, and who knows who else may all be limited due to wear and tear.
2) Tara is not a very starter-oriented coach. She will start the season with a large rotation and that rotation will gradually shrink as players sort themselves out via their play. Against Idaho last year, the second game of the season, 10 players got 10 minutes or more. Against Notre Dame it was 7 players. This year our rotation could start off even larger but will probably get down to 7 by the end.
3) Tara is quite situational according to match ups. Carrington has played the 4--she is plenty physical and not small. Bonnie played the stretch 4 against certain opponents. Coffee had an important role against Baylor. Tara will go small or go big, and sometimes do both just to discombobulate the opposing offense that won't know quite what to expect. A bit like switching from man to zone to interrupt their flow. So there could be some "specialists" that play depending on the opposition.
4) Looking at the end of last season is instructive. Carrington was more effective than earlier in the year but was losing minutes--she was wearing out. Lacie had at times been one of our best perimeter defenders but was victimized late and Lexie resumed taking the lion's share of the wing minutes by the end.
5) If we stay in the Princeton, as seems to make sense with Jones coming on, the 5 sits on the elbow with 1-4 all interchangeably shuffling through their progressions. But will Tara stay with this offense given the personnel she has now? If she does, then figuring out people's numbered positions are not very important on the offensive end.
I do think that if Lexie is fully healthy and gets back to form she is going to have a lot of minutes. She should become the next McPhee and I think she will. She has too much offensive potential to leave her out. And #14 isn't a bad ranking, even if it is not top 5. Lacie is the one who might suffer declining minutes. She already was at the end of the season as Lexie got healthier.
(06-27-2019, 03:05 PM)BosCard Wrote:(06-27-2019, 01:01 PM)81alum Wrote:(06-27-2019, 10:59 AM)BobK Wrote: Carrington still in the full knee braceIt is a real conundrum to figure out the lineup. But:
Bet she doesn’t play the 2. 3/4 yes :)
1) As Bob notes, injuries may have a lot to do with it. Carrington, Fingall, Dodson, Lexie, and who knows who else may all be limited due to wear and tear.
2) Tara is not a very starter-oriented coach. She will start the season with a large rotation and that rotation will gradually shrink as players sort themselves out via their play. Against Idaho last year, the second game of the season, 10 players got 10 minutes or more. Against Notre Dame it was 7 players. This year our rotation could start off even larger but will probably get down to 7 by the end.
3) Tara is quite situational according to match ups. Carrington has played the 4--she is plenty physical and not small. Bonnie played the stretch 4 against certain opponents. Coffee had an important role against Baylor. Tara will go small or go big, and sometimes do both just to discombobulate the opposing offense that won't know quite what to expect. A bit like switching from man to zone to interrupt their flow. So there could be some "specialists" that play depending on the opposition.
4) Looking at the end of last season is instructive. Carrington was more effective than earlier in the year but was losing minutes--she was wearing out. Lacie had at times been one of our best perimeter defenders but was victimized late and Lexie resumed taking the lion's share of the wing minutes by the end.
5) If we stay in the Princeton, as seems to make sense with Jones coming on, the 5 sits on the elbow with 1-4 all interchangeably shuffling through their progressions. But will Tara stay with this offense given the personnel she has now? If she does, then figuring out people's numbered positions are not very important on the offensive end.
I do think that if Lexie is fully healthy and gets back to form she is going to have a lot of minutes. She should become the next McPhee and I think she will. She has too much offensive potential to leave her out. And #14 isn't a bad ranking, even if it is not top 5. Lacie is the one who might suffer declining minutes. She already was at the end of the season as Lexie got healthier.
Maybe we can build off of 81alum's idea that at the end of the season, the rotation tightens. And to make things easier, let's say it's a rotation of 8 players. The game is something like, end of the regular season vs. Oregon or Pac-12 tournament final or Elite Eight in the NCAA tournament. What 8 players do you think will be playing the bulk of the minutes? Here's my guess:This is predicated on the assumption that Wilson will raise her 3-pt shooting percentage to the low to mid 30's. If she can't do that then I think Lacie Hull takes her minutes.
- Williams
- Carrington
- Wilson
- Hull, Lexie
- Jones
- Belibi
- Dodson
- Fingall
(06-27-2019, 03:05 PM)BosCard Wrote:(06-27-2019, 01:01 PM)81alum Wrote:(06-27-2019, 10:59 AM)BobK Wrote: Carrington still in the full knee braceIt is a real conundrum to figure out the lineup. But:
Bet she doesn’t play the 2. 3/4 yes :)
1) As Bob notes, injuries may have a lot to do with it. Carrington, Fingall, Dodson, Lexie, and who knows who else may all be limited due to wear and tear.
2) Tara is not a very starter-oriented coach. She will start the season with a large rotation and that rotation will gradually shrink as players sort themselves out via their play. Against Idaho last year, the second game of the season, 10 players got 10 minutes or more. Against Notre Dame it was 7 players. This year our rotation could start off even larger but will probably get down to 7 by the end.
3) Tara is quite situational according to match ups. Carrington has played the 4--she is plenty physical and not small. Bonnie played the stretch 4 against certain opponents. Coffee had an important role against Baylor. Tara will go small or go big, and sometimes do both just to discombobulate the opposing offense that won't know quite what to expect. A bit like switching from man to zone to interrupt their flow. So there could be some "specialists" that play depending on the opposition.
4) Looking at the end of last season is instructive. Carrington was more effective than earlier in the year but was losing minutes--she was wearing out. Lacie had at times been one of our best perimeter defenders but was victimized late and Lexie resumed taking the lion's share of the wing minutes by the end.
5) If we stay in the Princeton, as seems to make sense with Jones coming on, the 5 sits on the elbow with 1-4 all interchangeably shuffling through their progressions. But will Tara stay with this offense given the personnel she has now? If she does, then figuring out people's numbered positions are not very important on the offensive end.
I do think that if Lexie is fully healthy and gets back to form she is going to have a lot of minutes. She should become the next McPhee and I think she will. She has too much offensive potential to leave her out. And #14 isn't a bad ranking, even if it is not top 5. Lacie is the one who might suffer declining minutes. She already was at the end of the season as Lexie got healthier.
Maybe we can build off of 81alum's idea that at the end of the season, the rotation tightens. And to make things easier, let's say it's a rotation of 8 players. The game is something like, end of the regular season vs. Oregon or Pac-12 tournament final or Elite Eight in the NCAA tournament. What 8 players do you think will be playing the bulk of the minutes? Here's my guess:This is predicated on the assumption that Wilson will raise her 3-pt shooting percentage to the low to mid 30's. If she can't do that then I think Lacie Hull takes her minutes.
- Williams
- Carrington
- Wilson
- Hull, Lexie
- Jones
- Belibi
- Dodson
- Fingall