12-16-2021, 11:56 AM
2022 Football Schedule Release
Saturday, Sept. 3.....COLGATE
Saturday, Sept. 10...USC
Saturday, Sept. 24...at Washington
Saturday, Oct. 1......at Oregon
Saturday, Oct. 8.....OREGON STATE
Saturday, Oct. 15....at Notre Dame
Saturday, Oct. 22...ARIZONA STATE
Saturday, Oct. 29...at UCLA
Saturday, Nov. 5.....WASHINGTON STATE
Saturday, Nov. 12...at Utah
Saturday, Nov. 19...at California
Saturday, Nov. 26...BYU
https://gostanford.com/news/2021/12/16/f...unced.aspx
Saturday, Sept. 10...USC
Saturday, Sept. 24...at Washington
Saturday, Oct. 1......at Oregon
Saturday, Oct. 8.....OREGON STATE
Saturday, Oct. 15....at Notre Dame
Saturday, Oct. 22...ARIZONA STATE
Saturday, Oct. 29...at UCLA
Saturday, Nov. 5.....WASHINGTON STATE
Saturday, Nov. 12...at Utah
Saturday, Nov. 19...at California
Saturday, Nov. 26...BYU
https://gostanford.com/news/2021/12/16/f...unced.aspx
Saturday, Sept. 3.....COLGATE
Saturday, Sept. 10...USC
Saturday, Sept. 24...at Washington
Saturday, Oct. 1......at Oregon
Saturday, Oct. 8.....OREGON STATE
Saturday, Oct. 15....at Notre Dame
Saturday, Oct. 22...ARIZONA STATE
Saturday, Oct. 29...at UCLA
Saturday, Nov. 5.....WASHINGTON STATE
Saturday, Nov. 12...at Utah
Saturday, Nov. 19...at California
Saturday, Nov. 26...BYU
https://gostanford.com/news/2021/12/16/f...unced.aspx
Saturday, Sept. 10...USC
Saturday, Sept. 24...at Washington
Saturday, Oct. 1......at Oregon
Saturday, Oct. 8.....OREGON STATE
Saturday, Oct. 15....at Notre Dame
Saturday, Oct. 22...ARIZONA STATE
Saturday, Oct. 29...at UCLA
Saturday, Nov. 5.....WASHINGTON STATE
Saturday, Nov. 12...at Utah
Saturday, Nov. 19...at California
Saturday, Nov. 26...BYU
https://gostanford.com/news/2021/12/16/f...unced.aspx
12-16-2021, 12:10 PM
No Thursday or Friday games!!!!
But the BYE comes in week 3. Stanford will play on 10 consecutive Saturdays.
But the BYE comes in week 3. Stanford will play on 10 consecutive Saturdays.
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
No Thursday or Friday games!!!!
But the BYE comes in week 3. Stanford will play on 10 consecutive Saturdays.
But the BYE comes in week 3. Stanford will play on 10 consecutive Saturdays.
"We have an unwritten rule around here not to do anything stupid."
-Casey Jacobsen, Feb 3, 2000
12-16-2021, 12:16 PM
(12-16-2021, 12:10 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: No Thursday or Friday games!!!!
But the BYE comes in week 3. Stanford will play on 10 consecutive Saturdays.
I noticed that too. Games on Saturday like the good lord intended!
I mean, beyond that it's the usual odd year crap - too many early games, week 2 game against USC, bleh home schedule - plus this year OOC games against Colgate and BYU, so was never going to be a great schedule anyways.
I guess I'll say they did a good job of interleaving home/away as well as they could beyond week 2?
(12-16-2021, 12:10 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: No Thursday or Friday games!!!!
But the BYE comes in week 3. Stanford will play on 10 consecutive Saturdays.
I noticed that too. Games on Saturday like the good lord intended!
I mean, beyond that it's the usual odd year crap - too many early games, week 2 game against USC, bleh home schedule - plus this year OOC games against Colgate and BYU, so was never going to be a great schedule anyways.
I guess I'll say they did a good job of interleaving home/away as well as they could beyond week 2?
12-16-2021, 12:56 PM
9 consecutive Saturdays. Even if the Pac-12 championship is on a Saturday as opposed to a Friday there is no way on earth that Stanford makes it.
(12-16-2021, 12:10 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: No Thursday or Friday games!!!!
But the BYE comes in week 3. Stanford will play on 10 consecutive Saturdays.
The even year schedules are always brutal.
The USC game is just a September thing now.
I do like that BYU is last, as that will mean the final conference game is Big Game.
The schedule does illustrate why the Pac-12 lacks CFP representation.
Only one game looks like an easy W, Colgate.
Even the absolute worst teams in the SEC will still have 3 OOC sure thing home Ws on their schedule.
That then enables the conference to have loads of undefeated and one loss teams battling each other in high profile conference games in October, and likely two or more undefeated or one loss teams left for the SEC CG.
The USC game is just a September thing now.
I do like that BYU is last, as that will mean the final conference game is Big Game.
The schedule does illustrate why the Pac-12 lacks CFP representation.
Only one game looks like an easy W, Colgate.
Even the absolute worst teams in the SEC will still have 3 OOC sure thing home Ws on their schedule.
That then enables the conference to have loads of undefeated and one loss teams battling each other in high profile conference games in October, and likely two or more undefeated or one loss teams left for the SEC CG.
The even year schedules are always brutal.
The USC game is just a September thing now.
I do like that BYU is last, as that will mean the final conference game is Big Game.
The schedule does illustrate why the Pac-12 lacks CFP representation.
Only one game looks like an easy W, Colgate.
Even the absolute worst teams in the SEC will still have 3 OOC sure thing home Ws on their schedule.
That then enables the conference to have loads of undefeated and one loss teams battling each other in high profile conference games in October, and likely two or more undefeated or one loss teams left for the SEC CG.
The USC game is just a September thing now.
I do like that BYU is last, as that will mean the final conference game is Big Game.
The schedule does illustrate why the Pac-12 lacks CFP representation.
Only one game looks like an easy W, Colgate.
Even the absolute worst teams in the SEC will still have 3 OOC sure thing home Ws on their schedule.
That then enables the conference to have loads of undefeated and one loss teams battling each other in high profile conference games in October, and likely two or more undefeated or one loss teams left for the SEC CG.
12-16-2021, 02:06 PM
(12-16-2021, 01:02 PM)Farm93 Wrote: The even year schedules are always a brutal.
The USC game is just a September thing now.
I do like that BYU is last, as that will mean the final conference game is Big Game.
The schedule does illustrate why the Pac-12 lacks CFP representation.
Only one game looks like an easy W, Colgate.
Even the absolute worst teams in the SEC will still have 3 OOC sure thing home Ws on their schedule.
That then enables the conference to have loads of undefeated and one loss teams battling each other in high profile conference games in October, and likely two or more undefeated or one loss teams left for the SEC CG.
Many other Pac-12 teams schedule only cupcakes. This is not a reason the Pac-12 doesn't make the playoffs.
(12-16-2021, 01:02 PM)Farm93 Wrote: The even year schedules are always a brutal.
The USC game is just a September thing now.
I do like that BYU is last, as that will mean the final conference game is Big Game.
The schedule does illustrate why the Pac-12 lacks CFP representation.
Only one game looks like an easy W, Colgate.
Even the absolute worst teams in the SEC will still have 3 OOC sure thing home Ws on their schedule.
That then enables the conference to have loads of undefeated and one loss teams battling each other in high profile conference games in October, and likely two or more undefeated or one loss teams left for the SEC CG.
Many other Pac-12 teams schedule only cupcakes. This is not a reason the Pac-12 doesn't make the playoffs.
12-16-2021, 02:42 PM
(12-16-2021, 02:06 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:The Pac-12 teams don't schedule 4 cupcakes. They don't schedule 4 cupcakes at home.(12-16-2021, 01:02 PM)Farm93 Wrote: The even year schedules are always a brutal.
The USC game is just a September thing now.
I do like that BYU is last, as that will mean the final conference game is Big Game.
The schedule does illustrate why the Pac-12 lacks CFP representation.
Only one game looks like an easy W, Colgate.
Even the absolute worst teams in the SEC will still have 3 OOC sure thing home Ws on their schedule.
That then enables the conference to have loads of undefeated and one loss teams battling each other in high profile conference games in October, and likely two or more undefeated or one loss teams left for the SEC CG.
Many other Pac-12 teams schedule only cupcakes. This is not a reason the Pac-12 doesn't make the playoffs.
And too many Pac-12 teams are relatively cupcake free, so those teams pick up losses.
Worse, in the last decade the best teams have been the ones with the toughest OOC schedules.
But the Pac-12's problem is not the quality of the cupcakes it is the quantity of cupcakes.
9 conference games in a league with 12 teams means each team will only have 2 misses. The odds of two undefeated teams reaching the Pac-12 CG is remote just off that math. You need two teams that just happen to be the best in both divisions without playing each other.
The SEC has 14 teams. 7 in each division. They "only" play 8 conference games. So each team has 5 misses from the other division.
So odds are not bad that the best team from a division will not face the best team in the other division and therefore both will either come to CG undefeated or will have only one loss. That's especially true if EVERY team in the conference enjoys 3 or 4 cupcakes per year.
The SEC winning the CFP has a bit more to do with talent rich teams at the very top of the conference, but getting CFP participants each season is helped a lot by the 8 conference games and having a fondness for 3, if not 4 OOC cupcakes, at home by most of the conference.
The Pac-12 has a lot of challenges getting CFP consideration but 9 conference games and a number of the top teams scheduling tough OOC games are on that list.
(12-16-2021, 02:06 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:The Pac-12 teams don't schedule 4 cupcakes. They don't schedule 4 cupcakes at home.(12-16-2021, 01:02 PM)Farm93 Wrote: The even year schedules are always a brutal.
The USC game is just a September thing now.
I do like that BYU is last, as that will mean the final conference game is Big Game.
The schedule does illustrate why the Pac-12 lacks CFP representation.
Only one game looks like an easy W, Colgate.
Even the absolute worst teams in the SEC will still have 3 OOC sure thing home Ws on their schedule.
That then enables the conference to have loads of undefeated and one loss teams battling each other in high profile conference games in October, and likely two or more undefeated or one loss teams left for the SEC CG.
Many other Pac-12 teams schedule only cupcakes. This is not a reason the Pac-12 doesn't make the playoffs.
And too many Pac-12 teams are relatively cupcake free, so those teams pick up losses.
Worse, in the last decade the best teams have been the ones with the toughest OOC schedules.
But the Pac-12's problem is not the quality of the cupcakes it is the quantity of cupcakes.
9 conference games in a league with 12 teams means each team will only have 2 misses. The odds of two undefeated teams reaching the Pac-12 CG is remote just off that math. You need two teams that just happen to be the best in both divisions without playing each other.
The SEC has 14 teams. 7 in each division. They "only" play 8 conference games. So each team has 5 misses from the other division.
So odds are not bad that the best team from a division will not face the best team in the other division and therefore both will either come to CG undefeated or will have only one loss. That's especially true if EVERY team in the conference enjoys 3 or 4 cupcakes per year.
The SEC winning the CFP has a bit more to do with talent rich teams at the very top of the conference, but getting CFP participants each season is helped a lot by the 8 conference games and having a fondness for 3, if not 4 OOC cupcakes, at home by most of the conference.
The Pac-12 has a lot of challenges getting CFP consideration but 9 conference games and a number of the top teams scheduling tough OOC games are on that list.
(12-16-2021, 01:02 PM)Farm93 Wrote: The even year schedules are always brutal.
The USC game is just a September thing now.
I do like that BYU is last, as that will mean the final conference game is Big Game.
The schedule does illustrate why the Pac-12 lacks CFP representation.
Only one game looks like an easy W, Colgate.
Even the absolute worst teams in the SEC will still have 3 OOC sure thing home Ws on their schedule.
That then enables the conference to have loads of undefeated and one loss teams battling each other in high profile conference games in October, and likely two or more undefeated or one loss teams left for the SEC CG.
Once the new TV contract is negotiated, the PAC-12 will probably revert to an 8 game conference schedule (the new commissioner has discussed this topic a couple times). This will open up the schedule to create matchups between the Alliance members. As part of this change, look for the end to the annual games v. USC and UCLA. I would a expect a divisionless conference with one everyone receiving one guaranteed conference game annually (v. the rival school) and a rotation of the other seven.
(12-16-2021, 01:02 PM)Farm93 Wrote: The even year schedules are always brutal.
The USC game is just a September thing now.
I do like that BYU is last, as that will mean the final conference game is Big Game.
The schedule does illustrate why the Pac-12 lacks CFP representation.
Only one game looks like an easy W, Colgate.
Even the absolute worst teams in the SEC will still have 3 OOC sure thing home Ws on their schedule.
That then enables the conference to have loads of undefeated and one loss teams battling each other in high profile conference games in October, and likely two or more undefeated or one loss teams left for the SEC CG.
Once the new TV contract is negotiated, the PAC-12 will probably revert to an 8 game conference schedule (the new commissioner has discussed this topic a couple times). This will open up the schedule to create matchups between the Alliance members. As part of this change, look for the end to the annual games v. USC and UCLA. I would a expect a divisionless conference with one everyone receiving one guaranteed conference game annually (v. the rival school) and a rotation of the other seven.
12-16-2021, 04:11 PM
I’d hate to lose the annual games against the LA schools. I’m not too hopeful that we’ll find a way to move to 8 games and keep those matchups, though.
12-16-2021, 04:30 PM
(12-16-2021, 04:11 PM)Canalejas Wrote: I’d hate to lose the annual games against the LA schools. I’m not too hopeful that we’ll find a way to move to 8 games and keep those matchups, though.
Or the Pac goes to three four-team pods: California, Northwest, TUCOZA.
3 games within your pod every year, 4 games with another pod, 1 random game with someone from the leftover pod (pods rotate each year)
not necessarily the most fair each and every year, but worth thinking about, at least
(12-16-2021, 04:11 PM)Canalejas Wrote: I’d hate to lose the annual games against the LA schools. I’m not too hopeful that we’ll find a way to move to 8 games and keep those matchups, though.
Or the Pac goes to three four-team pods: California, Northwest, TUCOZA.
3 games within your pod every year, 4 games with another pod, 1 random game with someone from the leftover pod (pods rotate each year)
not necessarily the most fair each and every year, but worth thinking about, at least
(12-16-2021, 02:42 PM)Giants Wrote: Once the new TV contract is negotiated, the PAC-12 will probably revert to an 8 game conference schedule (the new commissioner has discussed this topic a couple times). This will open up the schedule to create matchups between the Alliance members. As part of this change, look for the end to the annual games v. USC and UCLA. I would a expect a divisionless conference with one everyone receiving one guaranteed conference game annually (v. the rival school) and a rotation of the other seven.
Definitely will be 8 conference games but it could be a pod structure with the California schools in one pod, northwest schools in another pod and Arizonas/Colorado/Utah in a third pod in terms of scheduling. Or Cal/Stanford/Colorado/Utah in one pod and SoCal and Arizona schools in another pod. Lots of possibilities, can't predict the formula yet.
- just saw that Needle was writing along the same lines at the same time. In any case there is more than one possible pod configuration although keeping the California rivalries intact would be my preference.
(12-16-2021, 02:42 PM)Giants Wrote: Once the new TV contract is negotiated, the PAC-12 will probably revert to an 8 game conference schedule (the new commissioner has discussed this topic a couple times). This will open up the schedule to create matchups between the Alliance members. As part of this change, look for the end to the annual games v. USC and UCLA. I would a expect a divisionless conference with one everyone receiving one guaranteed conference game annually (v. the rival school) and a rotation of the other seven.
Definitely will be 8 conference games but it could be a pod structure with the California schools in one pod, northwest schools in another pod and Arizonas/Colorado/Utah in a third pod in terms of scheduling. Or Cal/Stanford/Colorado/Utah in one pod and SoCal and Arizona schools in another pod. Lots of possibilities, can't predict the formula yet.
- just saw that Needle was writing along the same lines at the same time. In any case there is more than one possible pod configuration although keeping the California rivalries intact would be my preference.
12-16-2021, 05:11 PM
I’m onboard for pods. But I fear the easier route would be to keep the two divisions as is, since it wouldn’t require any NCAA rule changes.
12-16-2021, 05:14 PM
(12-16-2021, 12:56 PM)JustAnotherFan Wrote: 9 consecutive Saturdays. Even if the Pac-12 championship is on a Saturday as opposed to a Friday there is no way on earth that Stanford makes it.
(12-16-2021, 12:10 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: No Thursday or Friday games!!!!
But the BYE comes in week 3. Stanford will play on 10 consecutive Saturdays.
Maybe they'll be ripped and in shape by then. Who's the S&C coach now, the Tree?
Life is too short to waste on crap football.
(12-16-2021, 12:56 PM)JustAnotherFan Wrote: 9 consecutive Saturdays. Even if the Pac-12 championship is on a Saturday as opposed to a Friday there is no way on earth that Stanford makes it.
(12-16-2021, 12:10 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: No Thursday or Friday games!!!!
But the BYE comes in week 3. Stanford will play on 10 consecutive Saturdays.
Maybe they'll be ripped and in shape by then. Who's the S&C coach now, the Tree?
Life is too short to waste on crap football.
12-16-2021, 05:35 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-16-2021, 05:42 PM by cardcrimson.)
(12-16-2021, 02:42 PM)Farm93 Wrote:(12-16-2021, 02:06 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:The Pac-12 teams don't schedule 4 cupcakes. They don't schedule 4 cupcakes at home.(12-16-2021, 01:02 PM)Farm93 Wrote: The even year schedules are always a brutal.
The USC game is just a September thing now.
I do like that BYU is last, as that will mean the final conference game is Big Game.
The schedule does illustrate why the Pac-12 lacks CFP representation.
Only one game looks like an easy W, Colgate.
Even the absolute worst teams in the SEC will still have 3 OOC sure thing home Ws on their schedule.
That then enables the conference to have loads of undefeated and one loss teams battling each other in high profile conference games in October, and likely two or more undefeated or one loss teams left for the SEC CG.
Many other Pac-12 teams schedule only cupcakes. This is not a reason the Pac-12 doesn't make the playoffs.
And too many Pac-12 teams are relatively cupcake free, so those teams pick up losses.
Worse, in the last decade the best teams have been the ones with the toughest OOC schedules.
But the Pac-12's problem is not the quality of the cupcakes it is the quantity of cupcakes.
9 conference games in a league with 12 teams means each team will only have 2 misses. The odds of two undefeated teams reaching the Pac-12 CG is remote just off that math. You need two teams that just happen to be the best in both divisions without playing each other.
The SEC has 14 teams. 7 in each division. They "only" play 8 conference games. So each team has 5 misses from the other division.
So odds are not bad that the best team from a division will not face the best team in the other division and therefore both will either come to CG undefeated or will have only one loss. That's especially true if EVERY team in the conference enjoys 3 or 4 cupcakes per year.
The SEC winning the CFP has a bit more to do with talent rich teams at the very top of the conference, but getting CFP participants each season is helped a lot by the 8 conference games and having a fondness for 3, if not 4 OOC cupcakes, at home by most of the conference.
The Pac-12 has a lot of challenges getting CFP consideration but 9 conference games and a number of the top teams scheduling tough OOC games are on that list.
Here's an idea, let's schedule three home cupcakes. We could save operating costs by holding the games across the street at Paly High. We might even have a chance of selling that stadium out. . . .
SEC teams schedule cupcakes because A, they'll get a win; and B, they'll still sell out.
(12-16-2021, 02:42 PM)Giants Wrote:(12-16-2021, 01:02 PM)Farm93 Wrote: The even year schedules are always brutal.
The USC game is just a September thing now.
I do like that BYU is last, as that will mean the final conference game is Big Game.
The schedule does illustrate why the Pac-12 lacks CFP representation.
Only one game looks like an easy W, Colgate.
Even the absolute worst teams in the SEC will still have 3 OOC sure thing home Ws on their schedule.
That then enables the conference to have loads of undefeated and one loss teams battling each other in high profile conference games in October, and likely two or more undefeated or one loss teams left for the SEC CG.
Once the new TV contract is negotiated, the PAC-12 will probably revert to an 8 game conference schedule (the new commissioner has discussed this topic a couple times). This will open up the schedule to create matchups between the Alliance members. As part of this change, look for the end to the annual games v. USC and UCLA. I would a expect a divisionless conference with one everyone receiving one guaranteed conference game annually (v. the rival school) and a rotation of the other seven.
As for the intra-California matchups, they could always go the route Wake and North Carolina went this year, still play, but call it a non-conference game.
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
(This post was last modified: 12-16-2021, 05:42 PM by cardcrimson.)
(12-16-2021, 02:42 PM)Farm93 Wrote:(12-16-2021, 02:06 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:The Pac-12 teams don't schedule 4 cupcakes. They don't schedule 4 cupcakes at home.(12-16-2021, 01:02 PM)Farm93 Wrote: The even year schedules are always a brutal.
The USC game is just a September thing now.
I do like that BYU is last, as that will mean the final conference game is Big Game.
The schedule does illustrate why the Pac-12 lacks CFP representation.
Only one game looks like an easy W, Colgate.
Even the absolute worst teams in the SEC will still have 3 OOC sure thing home Ws on their schedule.
That then enables the conference to have loads of undefeated and one loss teams battling each other in high profile conference games in October, and likely two or more undefeated or one loss teams left for the SEC CG.
Many other Pac-12 teams schedule only cupcakes. This is not a reason the Pac-12 doesn't make the playoffs.
And too many Pac-12 teams are relatively cupcake free, so those teams pick up losses.
Worse, in the last decade the best teams have been the ones with the toughest OOC schedules.
But the Pac-12's problem is not the quality of the cupcakes it is the quantity of cupcakes.
9 conference games in a league with 12 teams means each team will only have 2 misses. The odds of two undefeated teams reaching the Pac-12 CG is remote just off that math. You need two teams that just happen to be the best in both divisions without playing each other.
The SEC has 14 teams. 7 in each division. They "only" play 8 conference games. So each team has 5 misses from the other division.
So odds are not bad that the best team from a division will not face the best team in the other division and therefore both will either come to CG undefeated or will have only one loss. That's especially true if EVERY team in the conference enjoys 3 or 4 cupcakes per year.
The SEC winning the CFP has a bit more to do with talent rich teams at the very top of the conference, but getting CFP participants each season is helped a lot by the 8 conference games and having a fondness for 3, if not 4 OOC cupcakes, at home by most of the conference.
The Pac-12 has a lot of challenges getting CFP consideration but 9 conference games and a number of the top teams scheduling tough OOC games are on that list.
Here's an idea, let's schedule three home cupcakes. We could save operating costs by holding the games across the street at Paly High. We might even have a chance of selling that stadium out. . . .
SEC teams schedule cupcakes because A, they'll get a win; and B, they'll still sell out.
(12-16-2021, 02:42 PM)Giants Wrote:(12-16-2021, 01:02 PM)Farm93 Wrote: The even year schedules are always brutal.
The USC game is just a September thing now.
I do like that BYU is last, as that will mean the final conference game is Big Game.
The schedule does illustrate why the Pac-12 lacks CFP representation.
Only one game looks like an easy W, Colgate.
Even the absolute worst teams in the SEC will still have 3 OOC sure thing home Ws on their schedule.
That then enables the conference to have loads of undefeated and one loss teams battling each other in high profile conference games in October, and likely two or more undefeated or one loss teams left for the SEC CG.
Once the new TV contract is negotiated, the PAC-12 will probably revert to an 8 game conference schedule (the new commissioner has discussed this topic a couple times). This will open up the schedule to create matchups between the Alliance members. As part of this change, look for the end to the annual games v. USC and UCLA. I would a expect a divisionless conference with one everyone receiving one guaranteed conference game annually (v. the rival school) and a rotation of the other seven.
As for the intra-California matchups, they could always go the route Wake and North Carolina went this year, still play, but call it a non-conference game.
Free Phogge!!!! And no, crimson doesn't refer to the Tide.
12-16-2021, 06:06 PM
(12-16-2021, 02:42 PM)Farm93 Wrote:(12-16-2021, 02:06 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:The Pac-12 teams don't schedule 4 cupcakes. They don't schedule 4 cupcakes at home.(12-16-2021, 01:02 PM)Farm93 Wrote: The even year schedules are always a brutal.
The USC game is just a September thing now.
I do like that BYU is last, as that will mean the final conference game is Big Game.
The schedule does illustrate why the Pac-12 lacks CFP representation.
Only one game looks like an easy W, Colgate.
Even the absolute worst teams in the SEC will still have 3 OOC sure thing home Ws on their schedule.
That then enables the conference to have loads of undefeated and one loss teams battling each other in high profile conference games in October, and likely two or more undefeated or one loss teams left for the SEC CG.
Many other Pac-12 teams schedule only cupcakes. This is not a reason the Pac-12 doesn't make the playoffs.
And too many Pac-12 teams are relatively cupcake free, so those teams pick up losses.
Worse, in the last decade the best teams have been the ones with the toughest OOC schedules.
But the Pac-12's problem is not the quality of the cupcakes it is the quantity of cupcakes.
9 conference games in a league with 12 teams means each team will only have 2 misses. The odds of two undefeated teams reaching the Pac-12 CG is remote just off that math. You need two teams that just happen to be the best in both divisions without playing each other.
The SEC has 14 teams. 7 in each division. They "only" play 8 conference games. So each team has 5 misses from the other division.
So odds are not bad that the best team from a division will not face the best team in the other division and therefore both will either come to CG undefeated or will have only one loss. That's especially true if EVERY team in the conference enjoys 3 or 4 cupcakes per year.
The SEC winning the CFP has a bit more to do with talent rich teams at the very top of the conference, but getting CFP participants each season is helped a lot by the 8 conference games and having a fondness for 3, if not 4 OOC cupcakes, at home by most of the conference.
The Pac-12 has a lot of challenges getting CFP consideration but 9 conference games and a number of the top teams scheduling tough OOC games are on that list.
The beauty of all the recent upheaval (my opinion anyway…)
The SEC will go to 9 conference games
The PAC-12 and Big Ten will go to 8 conference games plus a minimum of one game/year v. an Alliance member
The ACC will remain at 8 conference games plus a minimum of one game/year v. an Alliance member
The Big 12 will stay at 9 conference games
With the CFP moving inexorably towards guaranteed placement of every P5 conference champion in the playoffs, there would be no penalty for losing out-of-conference games. This would lead to a significant reduction of cream puff games.
(12-16-2021, 02:42 PM)Farm93 Wrote:(12-16-2021, 02:06 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:The Pac-12 teams don't schedule 4 cupcakes. They don't schedule 4 cupcakes at home.(12-16-2021, 01:02 PM)Farm93 Wrote: The even year schedules are always a brutal.
The USC game is just a September thing now.
I do like that BYU is last, as that will mean the final conference game is Big Game.
The schedule does illustrate why the Pac-12 lacks CFP representation.
Only one game looks like an easy W, Colgate.
Even the absolute worst teams in the SEC will still have 3 OOC sure thing home Ws on their schedule.
That then enables the conference to have loads of undefeated and one loss teams battling each other in high profile conference games in October, and likely two or more undefeated or one loss teams left for the SEC CG.
Many other Pac-12 teams schedule only cupcakes. This is not a reason the Pac-12 doesn't make the playoffs.
And too many Pac-12 teams are relatively cupcake free, so those teams pick up losses.
Worse, in the last decade the best teams have been the ones with the toughest OOC schedules.
But the Pac-12's problem is not the quality of the cupcakes it is the quantity of cupcakes.
9 conference games in a league with 12 teams means each team will only have 2 misses. The odds of two undefeated teams reaching the Pac-12 CG is remote just off that math. You need two teams that just happen to be the best in both divisions without playing each other.
The SEC has 14 teams. 7 in each division. They "only" play 8 conference games. So each team has 5 misses from the other division.
So odds are not bad that the best team from a division will not face the best team in the other division and therefore both will either come to CG undefeated or will have only one loss. That's especially true if EVERY team in the conference enjoys 3 or 4 cupcakes per year.
The SEC winning the CFP has a bit more to do with talent rich teams at the very top of the conference, but getting CFP participants each season is helped a lot by the 8 conference games and having a fondness for 3, if not 4 OOC cupcakes, at home by most of the conference.
The Pac-12 has a lot of challenges getting CFP consideration but 9 conference games and a number of the top teams scheduling tough OOC games are on that list.
The beauty of all the recent upheaval (my opinion anyway…)
The SEC will go to 9 conference games
The PAC-12 and Big Ten will go to 8 conference games plus a minimum of one game/year v. an Alliance member
The ACC will remain at 8 conference games plus a minimum of one game/year v. an Alliance member
The Big 12 will stay at 9 conference games
With the CFP moving inexorably towards guaranteed placement of every P5 conference champion in the playoffs, there would be no penalty for losing out-of-conference games. This would lead to a significant reduction of cream puff games.
12-16-2021, 10:24 PM
(12-16-2021, 12:56 PM)JustAnotherFan Wrote: 9 consecutive Saturdays. Even if the Pac-12 championship is on a Saturday as opposed to a Friday there is no way on earth that Stanford makes it.
(12-16-2021, 12:10 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: No Thursday or Friday games!!!!
But the BYE comes in week 3. Stanford will play on 10 consecutive Saturdays.
No, 10 consecutive Saturdays. We play two weeks, get a bye on week three, and play the last 10 games consecutively. It’s been a while since the NCAA went from 11 to 12 games a season.
BC
(12-16-2021, 12:56 PM)JustAnotherFan Wrote: 9 consecutive Saturdays. Even if the Pac-12 championship is on a Saturday as opposed to a Friday there is no way on earth that Stanford makes it.
(12-16-2021, 12:10 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: No Thursday or Friday games!!!!
But the BYE comes in week 3. Stanford will play on 10 consecutive Saturdays.
No, 10 consecutive Saturdays. We play two weeks, get a bye on week three, and play the last 10 games consecutively. It’s been a while since the NCAA went from 11 to 12 games a season.
BC
12-16-2021, 10:30 PM
This is going to be a tough schedule to navigate.
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