[martyup]

I'm taking my whole family to Disneyland on Media Day, when the Rose Bowl teams are there on the day after Christmas.  My wife, two daughters, and I will be wearing our Angry Nerds t-shirts.  Is anyone else going to be there?

[martyup]

I'm taking my whole family to Disneyland on Media Day, when the Rose Bowl teams are there on the day after Christmas.  My wife, two daughters, and I will be wearing our Angry Nerds t-shirts.  Is anyone else going to be there?

[fullmetal]

Ah nice!  Remind me to order my t-shirt when you open up the shop again.

I'm flying into LA taking the last flight out on Dec. 31...just in time.

And I recently learned that there are many Stanford alumni working at Disney in their Imagineering division (via two of my friends who work there).

[fullmetal]

Ah nice!  Remind me to order my t-shirt when you open up the shop again.

I'm flying into LA taking the last flight out on Dec. 31...just in time.

And I recently learned that there are many Stanford alumni working at Disney in their Imagineering division (via two of my friends who work there).

[stanfordite]

From what I've heard it's always the day after Christmas unless Christmas is on a Sunday.  Is the band still blacklisted from Disneyland?  If they are, it's time for Disney to move on and let them back.  How I'd love to hear All Right Now played in front of Sleeping Beauty Castle or on the steps of the Main Street train station.

[stanfordite]

From what I've heard it's always the day after Christmas unless Christmas is on a Sunday.  Is the band still blacklisted from Disneyland?  If they are, it's time for Disney to move on and let them back.  How I'd love to hear All Right Now played in front of Sleeping Beauty Castle or on the steps of the Main Street train station.

[sarcyspice]

wrong thread... oops... lol

[sarcyspice]

wrong thread... oops... lol

[sarcyspice]

From what I've heard it's always the day after Christmas unless Christmas is on a Sunday.  Is the band still blacklisted from Disneyland?  If they are, it's time for Disney to move on and let them back.  How I'd love to hear All Right Now played in front of Sleeping Beauty Castle or on the steps of the Main Street train station.

okay... for us spartan fans, why/how the band manage to get themselves banned from the heart of the "mothership".....

[sarcyspice]

From what I've heard it's always the day after Christmas unless Christmas is on a Sunday.  Is the band still blacklisted from Disneyland?  If they are, it's time for Disney to move on and let them back.  How I'd love to hear All Right Now played in front of Sleeping Beauty Castle or on the steps of the Main Street train station.

okay... for us spartan fans, why/how the band manage to get themselves banned from the heart of the "mothership".....

[Viking_Guy]

The "band director" of Disneyland is that extra from a Lani Riefenstahl extravaganza Dr. Arthur P. Bartner, the director of the u$c Toejam Marching Bund.  His pettiness is difficult to overestimate.

VG

[Viking_Guy]

The "band director" of Disneyland is that extra from a Lani Riefenstahl extravaganza Dr. Arthur P. Bartner, the director of the u$c Toejam Marching Bund.  His pettiness is difficult to overestimate.

VG

[dabigv13]

The "band director" of Disneyland is that extra from a Lani Riefenstahl extravaganza Dr. Arthur P. Bartner, the director of the u$c Toejam Marching Bund.  His pettiness is difficult to overestimate.

VG

Really? Wow what a douchebag.

[dabigv13]

The "band director" of Disneyland is that extra from a Lani Riefenstahl extravaganza Dr. Arthur P. Bartner, the director of the u$c Toejam Marching Bund.  His pettiness is difficult to overestimate.

VG

Really? Wow what a douchebag.

[stanfordite]

You can't always trust Wikipedia, but the LSJUMB's page says that apparently some of them tried to take over the mike on Storybook Land Canal Boats when visiting for the 1972 Rose Bowl and Disneyland officials were upset about the "true story" of the ride.

[stanfordite]

You can't always trust Wikipedia, but the LSJUMB's page says that apparently some of them tried to take over the mike on Storybook Land Canal Boats when visiting for the 1972 Rose Bowl and Disneyland officials were upset about the "true story" of the ride.

[Hank 91]

I actually met Art Bartner long ago. He is a family friend of the parents of one of my best friends from high school, and he and I happened to both be at my friend's house during the summer after my freshman year at Stanford. I was introduced to him like this: "This is our daughter's friend, Hank. He goes to Stanford." The first thing he said to me -- even though it was almost 25 years ago, I still remember it well -- was, "For such a fine university, it's a shame their band is the way it is." My response: "You could say the same thing in reverse about USC." I was 18.

[Hank 91]

I actually met Art Bartner long ago. He is a family friend of the parents of one of my best friends from high school, and he and I happened to both be at my friend's house during the summer after my freshman year at Stanford. I was introduced to him like this: "This is our daughter's friend, Hank. He goes to Stanford." The first thing he said to me -- even though it was almost 25 years ago, I still remember it well -- was, "For such a fine university, it's a shame their band is the way it is." My response: "You could say the same thing in reverse about USC." I was 18.

[Viking_Guy]

Hank--

Sounds like him.

My favorite story of the LSJUMB's relationship with him: Stanford is playing SC before the semester begins at home.  The band manager goes to the football operations meeting, where such things as who plays first at halftime, etc, get discussed.  SC has of course brought a big band, and Bartner is there.

It comes to the discussion of halftime and how each band would get 7 1/2 minutes, splitting the time equally. Bartner obviously didn't foresee that; he expected that since Stanford hadn't begun classes, they would have the whole halftime to themselves - on our field.  He starts to huff and puff about how they've got their halftime show all rehearsed, and it's 11 minutes long.  The band's manager says, of course we have a show; it's a home game.  Bartner continues to argue that the TMBund should get more time, and the increasingly exasperated manager, an acerbic New Yorker, says "All you had to do was call us to find out."  Well, that sets off Bartner, who starts in with the "how dare you (subtext: you young punk), you don't know what you're doing, I've been managing this band for over 20 years..."

To which the manager responds, "Well, you think you would have learned by now."

The rest of the meeting was reportedly not convivial.

VG

[Viking_Guy]

Hank--

Sounds like him.

My favorite story of the LSJUMB's relationship with him: Stanford is playing SC before the semester begins at home.  The band manager goes to the football operations meeting, where such things as who plays first at halftime, etc, get discussed.  SC has of course brought a big band, and Bartner is there.

It comes to the discussion of halftime and how each band would get 7 1/2 minutes, splitting the time equally. Bartner obviously didn't foresee that; he expected that since Stanford hadn't begun classes, they would have the whole halftime to themselves - on our field.  He starts to huff and puff about how they've got their halftime show all rehearsed, and it's 11 minutes long.  The band's manager says, of course we have a show; it's a home game.  Bartner continues to argue that the TMBund should get more time, and the increasingly exasperated manager, an acerbic New Yorker, says "All you had to do was call us to find out."  Well, that sets off Bartner, who starts in with the "how dare you (subtext: you young punk), you don't know what you're doing, I've been managing this band for over 20 years..."

To which the manager responds, "Well, you think you would have learned by now."

The rest of the meeting was reportedly not convivial.

VG

[Viking_Guy]

Stanfordite-

That might have been the origin of it in the 1970s, but, given that Stanford didn't go back to the Rose Bowl until 2000, I doubt they would have kept the band on the blacklist without the martinet (a word that doesn't get enough use).

http://halftimemag.com/articles/09-2010/...years.html

Turns out he retired in 2005.  But I'm betting he still calls them when we make the Rose Bowl.  It's his style.

The LSJUMB was also disinvited from performing when we had that preseason game in Anaheim (that was essentially sponsored by Disney) against Texas A&M.

VG

[Viking_Guy]

Stanfordite-

That might have been the origin of it in the 1970s, but, given that Stanford didn't go back to the Rose Bowl until 2000, I doubt they would have kept the band on the blacklist without the martinet (a word that doesn't get enough use).

http://halftimemag.com/articles/09-2010/...years.html

Turns out he retired in 2005.  But I'm betting he still calls them when we make the Rose Bowl.  It's his style.

The LSJUMB was also disinvited from performing when we had that preseason game in Anaheim (that was essentially sponsored by Disney) against Texas A&M.

VG

[fullmetal]

I've heard the hiss before and figured out its context...can't believe she would do that in a job interview!

[fullmetal]

I've heard the hiss before and figured out its context...can't believe she would do that in a job interview!

[Leftcoast]

Stanford students use to hiss in the early 80s when Cal was mentioned as well.  Has that traditional practice ended?

[Leftcoast]

Stanford students use to hiss in the early 80s when Cal was mentioned as well.  Has that traditional practice ended?

[stupac2]

Stanford students use to hiss in the early 80s when Low APR U was mentioned as well.  Has that traditional practice ended?

This is the first I've heard of it, so I would assume it has ended.

Maybe this is just me (but it certainly applies to my cohort), but I think that this rivalry is pretty congenial, and most people think that sort of thing is dumb. When I see Cal fans call us "the school I wish I had gotten into" or other stuff I just shake my head and wonder what's wrong with them. I get that if you go to Ohio State or Alabama or Florida or any of those schools where there's not much pride in the institution outside of sports and these rivalries are one of the most important pieces of social cohesion, but that was just not true at Stanford and I can't fathom why it would be true at Cal either. But it sure seems to be a lot more common.

[stupac2]

Stanford students use to hiss in the early 80s when Low APR U was mentioned as well.  Has that traditional practice ended?

This is the first I've heard of it, so I would assume it has ended.

Maybe this is just me (but it certainly applies to my cohort), but I think that this rivalry is pretty congenial, and most people think that sort of thing is dumb. When I see Cal fans call us "the school I wish I had gotten into" or other stuff I just shake my head and wonder what's wrong with them. I get that if you go to Ohio State or Alabama or Florida or any of those schools where there's not much pride in the institution outside of sports and these rivalries are one of the most important pieces of social cohesion, but that was just not true at Stanford and I can't fathom why it would be true at Cal either. But it sure seems to be a lot more common.

[Leftcoast]

In my experience, the hatred within the Cal/Stanford rivalry was always uneven and weighted toward Berkeley's side of the teeter-totter.  Stanford fans, by and large, keep score of everything from Supreme Court Justices to Tech millionaires but don't impart to this the moral or spiritual superiority that most Ca.l fans do.  (And yes I know there are reasonable Ca.l fans as well.)

When we read the obnoxious stereo-typing on Cal forums we roll our eyes and find it hard to believe that educated people actually buy in to this stuff.  It's hard to believe because when it happens over here it's mostly tongue in cheek and not heart-felt.

Except for when I posted about Scott Fujita and Mike Silver being pinko, commie, fifth column infiltrators and thugs.  I meant that.

[Leftcoast]

In my experience, the hatred within the Cal/Stanford rivalry was always uneven and weighted toward Berkeley's side of the teeter-totter.  Stanford fans, by and large, keep score of everything from Supreme Court Justices to Tech millionaires but don't impart to this the moral or spiritual superiority that most Ca.l fans do.  (And yes I know there are reasonable Ca.l fans as well.)

When we read the obnoxious stereo-typing on Cal forums we roll our eyes and find it hard to believe that educated people actually buy in to this stuff.  It's hard to believe because when it happens over here it's mostly tongue in cheek and not heart-felt.

Except for when I posted about Scott Fujita and Mike Silver being pinko, commie, fifth column infiltrators and thugs.  I meant that.

[Roberton3]

When we read the obnoxious stereo-typing on Low APR U forums we roll our eyes and find it hard to believe that educated people actually buy in to this stuff.  It's hard to believe because when it happens over here it's mostly tongue in cheek and not heart-felt.

In my experience, it's almost entirely tongue-in-cheek in both directions.  But the Cal alums that I know may well be atypical in this respect (they're certainly atypical in other respects).

[Roberton3]

When we read the obnoxious stereo-typing on Low APR U forums we roll our eyes and find it hard to believe that educated people actually buy in to this stuff.  It's hard to believe because when it happens over here it's mostly tongue in cheek and not heart-felt.

In my experience, it's almost entirely tongue-in-cheek in both directions.  But the Cal alums that I know may well be atypical in this respect (they're certainly atypical in other respects).

[TreeFitty]

I miss the rivalry. this years big game just felt dirty and sad.

[TreeFitty]

I miss the rivalry. this years big game just felt dirty and sad.

[CrazedZooChimp]

Ah nice!  Remind me to order my t-shirt when you open up the shop again.

I'm flying into LA taking the last flight out on Dec. 31...just in time.

And I recently learned that there are many Stanford alumni working at Disney in their Imagineering division (via two of my friends who work there).

Interesting...any of them want to get me a job building robots and amusement park rides?

[CrazedZooChimp]

Ah nice!  Remind me to order my t-shirt when you open up the shop again.

I'm flying into LA taking the last flight out on Dec. 31...just in time.

And I recently learned that there are many Stanford alumni working at Disney in their Imagineering division (via two of my friends who work there).

Interesting...any of them want to get me a job building robots and amusement park rides?

[fullmetal]

CZC, I'll ask them if they know anything about those sorts of jobs.

[fullmetal]

CZC, I'll ask them if they know anything about those sorts of jobs.

[martyup]

Update from mouseplanet.com:

http://www.mouseplanet.com/10569/Disneyl...date#news2

The two teams competing in the 2014 Rose Bowl Game are scheduled to visit Disneyland on Thursday, December 26 to participate in the annual Media Day. Expect the coaches and key players from Michigan State and Stanford to appear in a very brief ceremony in front of Disneyland's Sleeping Beauty Castle at 2:15 p.m.

We do not yet have a formal schedule for the ceremony, but based on past years, expect the event to impact operations around Main Street, with the Castle forecourt roped off starting around 11:30 a.m. to set up a seating area, and the Main Street vehicles to close for the day at noon. The seating area is reserved for invited guests only, but you can watch from the sidelines if you're willing to wait an hour or more.

Immediately after the ceremony, the coaches and players generally participate in interview sessions. Again, we don't have an official schedule, but keep an eye out for some of the players posing for media photos around the tesort starting around 3:00—the Matterhorn Bobsleds and Mad Tea Party are two likely spots to catch a glimpse of the players.

We also expect the bands from the two Rose Bowl teams to appear at Disneyland after Christmas, but no details are yet available.

It says nothing about the Stanford band being banned.

[martyup]

Update from mouseplanet.com:

http://www.mouseplanet.com/10569/Disneyl...date#news2

The two teams competing in the 2014 Rose Bowl Game are scheduled to visit Disneyland on Thursday, December 26 to participate in the annual Media Day. Expect the coaches and key players from Michigan State and Stanford to appear in a very brief ceremony in front of Disneyland's Sleeping Beauty Castle at 2:15 p.m.

We do not yet have a formal schedule for the ceremony, but based on past years, expect the event to impact operations around Main Street, with the Castle forecourt roped off starting around 11:30 a.m. to set up a seating area, and the Main Street vehicles to close for the day at noon. The seating area is reserved for invited guests only, but you can watch from the sidelines if you're willing to wait an hour or more.

Immediately after the ceremony, the coaches and players generally participate in interview sessions. Again, we don't have an official schedule, but keep an eye out for some of the players posing for media photos around the tesort starting around 3:00—the Matterhorn Bobsleds and Mad Tea Party are two likely spots to catch a glimpse of the players.

We also expect the bands from the two Rose Bowl teams to appear at Disneyland after Christmas, but no details are yet available.

It says nothing about the Stanford band being banned.