[CowboyIndian]

So it seems terribly silly to remove a player for, essentially, one play.

Any pinch hit substitution, bringing in a lefty to face a lefty for one at-bat... or even a late-game defensive replacement...are those silly as well? They all rely on statistics that say you improve the chances of a positive outcome, no? 
I guess  I could argue either way but just pointing out that it's not the only time managers make those kinds of calls and this one doesn't seem any sillier than the others.

[CowboyIndian]

So it seems terribly silly to remove a player for, essentially, one play.

Any pinch hit substitution, bringing in a lefty to face a lefty for one at-bat... or even a late-game defensive replacement...are those silly as well? They all rely on statistics that say you improve the chances of a positive outcome, no? 
I guess  I could argue either way but just pointing out that it's not the only time managers make those kinds of calls and this one doesn't seem any sillier than the others.

[Mick]

Well, my belief -- pretty well-supported by statistics -- is that you should rarely bunt, not that the identity of the bunter matters terribly much.

Is that based upon professional, major league statistics or based upon college statistics?  Given that the reaction time is presumably less, the fielding is a little less clean, the catching is a little less clean at the NCAA level, are the statistics for bunting the same?

[Mick]

Well, my belief -- pretty well-supported by statistics -- is that you should rarely bunt, not that the identity of the bunter matters terribly much.

Is that based upon professional, major league statistics or based upon college statistics?  Given that the reaction time is presumably less, the fielding is a little less clean, the catching is a little less clean at the NCAA level, are the statistics for bunting the same?

[washingtonismoney]

Is that based upon professional, major league statistics or based upon college statistics?  Given that the reaction time is presumably less, the fielding is a little less clean, the catching is a little less clean at the NCAA level, are the statistics for bunting the same?

But of course all those factors apply to hitting as well. In fact, given the metal bats in college baseball, hitters might have an even greater relative advantage than the pros.

[washingtonismoney]

Is that based upon professional, major league statistics or based upon college statistics?  Given that the reaction time is presumably less, the fielding is a little less clean, the catching is a little less clean at the NCAA level, are the statistics for bunting the same?

But of course all those factors apply to hitting as well. In fact, given the metal bats in college baseball, hitters might have an even greater relative advantage than the pros.

[OutsiderFan]

That game reminded me of the Giants playing torture baseball.  It's too bad Quantrill couldn't have retired one more batter in the 8th.  The blown call on the DP came pretty close to being too much for Stnford to overcome.

Vanderbilt has to be considered the favorite tomorrow, but is it realistic to think Stanford has the pitching depth to win?

[OutsiderFan]

That game reminded me of the Giants playing torture baseball.  It's too bad Quantrill couldn't have retired one more batter in the 8th.  The blown call on the DP came pretty close to being too much for Stnford to overcome.

Vanderbilt has to be considered the favorite tomorrow, but is it realistic to think Stanford has the pitching depth to win?

[DC]

Thanks goodness we will have a new relief pitcher tomorrow.

[DC]

Thanks goodness we will have a new relief pitcher tomorrow.

[Mick]

That game reminded me of the Giants playing torture baseball.

Giants were behind by a run tonight going in to the ninth inning.  Pagan struck out, but reached first when the ball got away from the catcher.  Pence doubled him in.  Posey flied out TO LEFT, advancing Pence to third from second.  Very rare.  Then, they walk Sandoval, to set up a potential double play.  Then Morse has his first walk off hit, a single that reaches the right/center corner. 

All they do is win...  41-21, best record in baseball...

[Mick]

That game reminded me of the Giants playing torture baseball.

Giants were behind by a run tonight going in to the ninth inning.  Pagan struck out, but reached first when the ball got away from the catcher.  Pence doubled him in.  Posey flied out TO LEFT, advancing Pence to third from second.  Very rare.  Then, they walk Sandoval, to set up a potential double play.  Then Morse has his first walk off hit, a single that reaches the right/center corner. 

All they do is win...  41-21, best record in baseball...

[Leftcoast]

I've watched the Giants since the 70s and this is the hottest stretch I can remember. 

[Leftcoast]

I've watched the Giants since the 70s and this is the hottest stretch I can remember. 

[Extra Point]

Now the BIG question:  do rudruff and I dare turn on the television? :)

Can someone explain to me how Stanford fans can improve the baseball team's chances of winning by not watching them on TV?

[Extra Point]

Now the BIG question:  do rudruff and I dare turn on the television? :)

Can someone explain to me how Stanford fans can improve the baseball team's chances of winning by not watching them on TV?

[Rally]

[quote author=ferrari link=topic=10074.msg90864#msg90864 date=1402251508]
Now the BIG question:  do rudruff and I dare turn on the television? :)

Can someone explain to me how Stanford fans can improve the baseball team's chances of winning by not watching them on TV?
[/quote]

What?  You don't believe in curses?

[Rally]

[quote author=ferrari link=topic=10074.msg90864#msg90864 date=1402251508]
Now the BIG question:  do rudruff and I dare turn on the television? :)

Can someone explain to me how Stanford fans can improve the baseball team's chances of winning by not watching them on TV?
[/quote]

What?  You don't believe in curses?

[DC]

How can we win if we only have one pitcher?

[DC]

How can we win if we only have one pitcher?

[PrinceLightfoot]

How can we win if we only have one pitcher?

We can't. Our only consistent pitcher played 7 innings yesterday and the relief almost lost it for us.

5-0 at the top of the 1st with 2 outs.

[PrinceLightfoot]

How can we win if we only have one pitcher?

We can't. Our only consistent pitcher played 7 innings yesterday and the relief almost lost it for us.

5-0 at the top of the 1st with 2 outs.

[oman]

We can't. Our only consistent pitcher played 7 innings yesterday and the relief almost lost it for us.

5-0 at the top of the 1st with 2 outs.

With all due respect, I believe this is going to be our finest hour (or two, maybe three).

[oman]

We can't. Our only consistent pitcher played 7 innings yesterday and the relief almost lost it for us.

5-0 at the top of the 1st with 2 outs.

With all due respect, I believe this is going to be our finest hour (or two, maybe three).

[fullmetal]

I hope you're right oman.  I hope you're right.

[fullmetal]

I hope you're right oman.  I hope you're right.

[fullmetal]

Here's how the game started.

Start of 1st
Batting starts
Swanson singled up the middle (2-1 BKB).
Swanson stole second.
Reynolds grounded out to 2b (3-2 BKBKBFF); Swanson advanced to third.
Conde singled up the middle, RBI (1-2 BKF); Swanson scored.
Conde stole second.
Wiel doubled down the rf line, RBI (1-2 BKF); Conde scored.
Turner singled to right field (0-0); Wiel advanced to third.
Wiseman out at first 3b to 2b, SAC, bunt, RBI (1-1 FB); Turner advanced to second; Wiel scored.
Brakeman, M to p for James, L.

Four earned runs in 0.2 innings for Logan James.

[fullmetal]

Here's how the game started.

Start of 1st
Batting starts
Swanson singled up the middle (2-1 BKB).
Swanson stole second.
Reynolds grounded out to 2b (3-2 BKBKBFF); Swanson advanced to third.
Conde singled up the middle, RBI (1-2 BKF); Swanson scored.
Conde stole second.
Wiel doubled down the rf line, RBI (1-2 BKF); Conde scored.
Turner singled to right field (0-0); Wiel advanced to third.
Wiseman out at first 3b to 2b, SAC, bunt, RBI (1-1 FB); Turner advanced to second; Wiel scored.
Brakeman, M to p for James, L.

Four earned runs in 0.2 innings for Logan James.

[fullmetal]

Just like that, it's 5-3 at the bottom of the 3rd with only one out!

Batting starts
Edman, T singled to right field (2-2 BKBF).
Diekroeger,D singled to center field (2-1 BBK); Edman, T advanced to second.
Blandino, A doubled down the rf line, RBI (0-0); Diekroeger,D advanced to third; Edman, T scored.
Slater, A struck out swinging, out at first c to 1b (2-2 BFBKS).
Hoffpauir, Z reached on an error by 2b, RBI (1-1 KB); Blandino, A advanced to third, scored on the error, unearned; Diekroeger,D scored.

[fullmetal]

Just like that, it's 5-3 at the bottom of the 3rd with only one out!

Batting starts
Edman, T singled to right field (2-2 BKBF).
Diekroeger,D singled to center field (2-1 BBK); Edman, T advanced to second.
Blandino, A doubled down the rf line, RBI (0-0); Diekroeger,D advanced to third; Edman, T scored.
Slater, A struck out swinging, out at first c to 1b (2-2 BFBKS).
Hoffpauir, Z reached on an error by 2b, RBI (1-1 KB); Blandino, A advanced to third, scored on the error, unearned; Diekroeger,D scored.

[dabigv13]

[quote author=ferrari link=topic=10074.msg90726#msg90726 date=1401981508]
[quote author=Treebound link=topic=10074.msg90724#msg90724 date=1401981071]
Those are the same people that use the term "Frisco."  They aren't from our fair state!  And if they say "the 101" or "the 280" they are likely from SoCal and not NorCal.  I guess with that much traffic in LA, I might put an emphasis on the freeways as well.  "The 405 is the world's longest parking lot!"

So right, drives me crazy, especially "cali" (which, for some reason, David Lombardi seems to use an awful lot :(
[/quote]

Agree, Cali grates on the ears.
[/quote]

Did someone say Kali?

[dabigv13]

[quote author=ferrari link=topic=10074.msg90726#msg90726 date=1401981508]
[quote author=Treebound link=topic=10074.msg90724#msg90724 date=1401981071]
Those are the same people that use the term "Frisco."  They aren't from our fair state!  And if they say "the 101" or "the 280" they are likely from SoCal and not NorCal.  I guess with that much traffic in LA, I might put an emphasis on the freeways as well.  "The 405 is the world's longest parking lot!"

So right, drives me crazy, especially "cali" (which, for some reason, David Lombardi seems to use an awful lot :(
[/quote]

Agree, Cali grates on the ears.
[/quote]

Did someone say Kali?

[fullmetal]

Gametracker: http://www.vucommodores.com/gametracker/...rt=mbasebl

NCAA gamecenter: http://www.ncaa.com/game/baseball/d1/201...stanford-3

Wayne Taylor with the triple, scoring Zach Hoffpauir.  5-4!

Dominic Jose at bat, 0-2 count. 

[fullmetal]

Gametracker: http://www.vucommodores.com/gametracker/...rt=mbasebl

NCAA gamecenter: http://www.ncaa.com/game/baseball/d1/201...stanford-3

Wayne Taylor with the triple, scoring Zach Hoffpauir.  5-4!

Dominic Jose at bat, 0-2 count. 

[PrinceLightfoot]

I hope you're right oman.  I hope you're right.

I hope oman is right, too. Stanford cuts the lead 5-4 in the top of the fourth.

[PrinceLightfoot]

I hope you're right oman.  I hope you're right.

I hope oman is right, too. Stanford cuts the lead 5-4 in the top of the fourth.

[fullmetal]

Vandy gets one more, 6-4 at the bottom of the 4th, but Stanford has two men on base with no outs so far...

Let's clarify.  A wild pitch and failed pickoff attempt have Stanford runners at 2nd and 3rd base with no outs.  Living dangerously :)

[fullmetal]

Vandy gets one more, 6-4 at the bottom of the 4th, but Stanford has two men on base with no outs so far...

Let's clarify.  A wild pitch and failed pickoff attempt have Stanford runners at 2nd and 3rd base with no outs.  Living dangerously :)

[Kathy]

《groan》
12-5 Vandy in the 8th

[Kathy]

《groan》
12-5 Vandy in the 8th