[Stymie]

[quote author=ferrari link=topic=12160.msg118878#msg118878 date=1432333438]
[quote author=Yvonne link=topic=12160.msg118876#msg118876 date=1432333333]
Such a BS name for a war in which the first shots were fired by insurrectionists against the US Army.

Only if you ignore John Brown's black op earlier.
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Please. John Brown was long dead by the time the Civil War started. Besides, doesn't that fly in the face of Southerners' other BS that the war wasn't about slavery. (Until you read the actual Articles of Secession).
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I sat next to a Professor of American History at the University of Glasgow at a wedding a few years ago and he refused to let go of his solemn belief that the Civil War was all due to economics and nothing to slavery.  He was an idiot.

PS-now it is true that if you traffic in human beings, ir is possible that this trafficking can be considered a subset of "economics," but if you have a conscience, you know better.

[Stymie]

[quote author=ferrari link=topic=12160.msg118878#msg118878 date=1432333438]
[quote author=Yvonne link=topic=12160.msg118876#msg118876 date=1432333333]
Such a BS name for a war in which the first shots were fired by insurrectionists against the US Army.

Only if you ignore John Brown's black op earlier.
[/quote]

Please. John Brown was long dead by the time the Civil War started. Besides, doesn't that fly in the face of Southerners' other BS that the war wasn't about slavery. (Until you read the actual Articles of Secession).
[/quote]

I sat next to a Professor of American History at the University of Glasgow at a wedding a few years ago and he refused to let go of his solemn belief that the Civil War was all due to economics and nothing to slavery.  He was an idiot.

PS-now it is true that if you traffic in human beings, ir is possible that this trafficking can be considered a subset of "economics," but if you have a conscience, you know better.