[Roberton3]

What, are you guys secretly afraid of Ca.l?  Why so defensive about acknowledging they might be anything more than dreadful?

No question that Cal is "more than dreadful".  And the indications so far suggest that Cal is significantly better this year than last.

The problem is that Cal fans are getting way too excited about beating bad teams, and are seeming pretty confident about winning the Pac-12.  That's not going to happen.  I'd be surprised if Cal finishes any higher than 3rd in the North, and shocked if they win the North.

[Roberton3]

What, are you guys secretly afraid of Ca.l?  Why so defensive about acknowledging they might be anything more than dreadful?

No question that Cal is "more than dreadful".  And the indications so far suggest that Cal is significantly better this year than last.

The problem is that Cal fans are getting way too excited about beating bad teams, and are seeming pretty confident about winning the Pac-12.  That's not going to happen.  I'd be surprised if Cal finishes any higher than 3rd in the North, and shocked if they win the North.