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Just like David Parry not playing as a frosh, not starting as a sophomore, and not starting (except when the starter was injured) as a junior was a poor predictor of his success as a senior and RS senior.

There are lots of examples of guys who don't see much action until their third year in the program and then end up being stars.

BC

No, it's not impossible for good players to only reveal it after several years of not playing.  What I am saying is you know someone is a great player when they do play well early.  Meeks is a star.  The odds '14 recruit Brandon Simmons becomes one, with Reid, Edwards, and Meeks playing over him as '15 recruits, are not high, is my point.
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Lyons is the counterexample.  He played (started) as a frosh, but by his senior year, Harris was at least equal to him, and when he transferred to Michigan, he got lost on the depth chart.  I hesitate to call a three-year starter a disappointment, but his career tragectory wasn't the same as, say Carter's.

BC 

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[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=13488.msg139231#msg139231 date=1446581464]
Just like David Parry not playing as a frosh, not starting as a sophomore, and not starting (except when the starter was injured) as a junior was a poor predictor of his success as a senior and RS senior.

There are lots of examples of guys who don't see much action until their third year in the program and then end up being stars.

BC

No, it's not impossible for good players to only reveal it after several years of not playing.  What I am saying is you know someone is a great player when they do play well early.  Meeks is a star.  The odds '14 recruit Brandon Simmons becomes one, with Reid, Edwards, and Meeks playing over him as '15 recruits, are not high, is my point.
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Lyons is the counterexample.  He played (started) as a frosh, but by his senior year, Harris was at least equal to him, and when he transferred to Michigan, he got lost on the depth chart.  I hesitate to call a three-year starter a disappointment, but his career tragectory wasn't the same as, say Carter's.

BC