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I'd say it's far more likely we lose to an Oregon team immeasurably aided by players who should be ineligible -- as we did last year -- than that we go undefeated and are excluded from a national championship game through political machinations.

It's nice that we have a program strong enough that we can talk about contending for a national championship without guffawing. But in reality, the chances are tiny -- we lost too many people on defense, we lack proven wide receivers, and we shuffled too many coaches. And to suggest that the Pac-10 or NCAA should stop punishing cheaters in support of a putative Stanford national championship bid is nuts.

You have a different focus than I.  I am simply focused on a tainted title.  In other words, completely short term.  I have no issue with enforcement.  I really don't see this as an enforcement of rules issue anyway.

The fact that I am sorry that I didn't get to see Diego Mardona play in Dallas long ago because he got failed a drug test doesn't mean I am for eliminating drug tests.

[oman]

I'd say it's far more likely we lose to an Oregon team immeasurably aided by players who should be ineligible -- as we did last year -- than that we go undefeated and are excluded from a national championship game through political machinations.

It's nice that we have a program strong enough that we can talk about contending for a national championship without guffawing. But in reality, the chances are tiny -- we lost too many people on defense, we lack proven wide receivers, and we shuffled too many coaches. And to suggest that the Pac-10 or NCAA should stop punishing cheaters in support of a putative Stanford national championship bid is nuts.

You have a different focus than I.  I am simply focused on a tainted title.  In other words, completely short term.  I have no issue with enforcement.  I really don't see this as an enforcement of rules issue anyway.

The fact that I am sorry that I didn't get to see Diego Mardona play in Dallas long ago because he got failed a drug test doesn't mean I am for eliminating drug tests.