[Mick]

[quote author=martyup link=topic=14611.msg156893#msg156893 date=1456003669]
Another example of Obama'a divisiveness . . . "You didn't build that."

That comment was not artfully made, but largely taken out of context.  Here is the context:

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business – you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

It would have been less divisive if he had said "You didn't build that entirely on your own" so he should get some blame.  But the four sentences leading up to that infamous phrase profoundly changes its meaning.  To say that individual achievement in America depends upon underlying community support is a far cry from demeaning individual achievement altogether.  And then it is also probable that "you didn't build that" referenced the roads and bridges that a business depends upon, not the business itself, although you would never know that from the isolated phrase.  Either way, he garbled the message.
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He couldn't say "You didn't build that entirely on your own" because the very next sentence was "Someone else made that happen."  So the two sentences that he actually said, taken together, read as  "You didn't build that.  Someone else made that happen."  It removes any credit from the person who actually made it happen, the business owner or creator or inventor.  It eliminates their skill, hard work, market perceptions, ideas and, yes, luck and credits all to people who worked in the infrastructure.  Yes, what they do and did is important, and goodness knows we'll be paying their public job pensions until we're bleeding from the ears.  President Obama gave core credit for the giants who drove the American economy to the people who support it, and don't drive it.  He's a mesmerizing speaker, I don't think he garbled it at all, I think he said precisely what he meant to say.  There's a lot more voters, err, people who are part of the infrastructure than who build businesses.

[Mick]

[quote author=martyup link=topic=14611.msg156893#msg156893 date=1456003669]
Another example of Obama'a divisiveness . . . "You didn't build that."

That comment was not artfully made, but largely taken out of context.  Here is the context:

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business – you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

It would have been less divisive if he had said "You didn't build that entirely on your own" so he should get some blame.  But the four sentences leading up to that infamous phrase profoundly changes its meaning.  To say that individual achievement in America depends upon underlying community support is a far cry from demeaning individual achievement altogether.  And then it is also probable that "you didn't build that" referenced the roads and bridges that a business depends upon, not the business itself, although you would never know that from the isolated phrase.  Either way, he garbled the message.
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He couldn't say "You didn't build that entirely on your own" because the very next sentence was "Someone else made that happen."  So the two sentences that he actually said, taken together, read as  "You didn't build that.  Someone else made that happen."  It removes any credit from the person who actually made it happen, the business owner or creator or inventor.  It eliminates their skill, hard work, market perceptions, ideas and, yes, luck and credits all to people who worked in the infrastructure.  Yes, what they do and did is important, and goodness knows we'll be paying their public job pensions until we're bleeding from the ears.  President Obama gave core credit for the giants who drove the American economy to the people who support it, and don't drive it.  He's a mesmerizing speaker, I don't think he garbled it at all, I think he said precisely what he meant to say.  There's a lot more voters, err, people who are part of the infrastructure than who build businesses.