[washingtonismoney]

Disagree here with both of you. Beating the #13 team in the world, at home, is no great accomplishment -- the U.S. generally ranks in the top 15-20 teams in the world; edging out the #13 team -- with a few kind bounces -- isn't really a super-fantastic accomplishment.

But I disagree that this is the same U.S. team as always. If it is, it's thanks to Klinsmann's efforts -- the U.S., in fact, has more talent than it's ever had in recent memory.

Take a gander, for example, at the 2011 Gold Cup final: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_CONCA..._Cup_Final

There are players who aren't even on the Copa America roster who'd be starting on that 2011 team.

[washingtonismoney]

Disagree here with both of you. Beating the #13 team in the world, at home, is no great accomplishment -- the U.S. generally ranks in the top 15-20 teams in the world; edging out the #13 team -- with a few kind bounces -- isn't really a super-fantastic accomplishment.

But I disagree that this is the same U.S. team as always. If it is, it's thanks to Klinsmann's efforts -- the U.S., in fact, has more talent than it's ever had in recent memory.

Take a gander, for example, at the 2011 Gold Cup final: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_CONCA..._Cup_Final

There are players who aren't even on the Copa America roster who'd be starting on that 2011 team.