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I think the members play the greens above 14.

No way.  You do realize that a linoleum floor runs around 13.

USGA needs to get its head out of its rear end on the ball moving rulings on the green on several fronts:
- The penalty either needs to be assessed ASAP or it doesn't.  This "we'll decide after the round" is a laughingstock.
- I can understand the rule being applied out on the course but not on the green
- If you can't put your putter gently down behind the ball without touching it, and causing the ball to move, then maybe the greens are cut too short?

Something's gotta give.  I love the fast greens and I would rather the penalty not be applied on the green in the way it is being applied.  The way it's being done today is a joke, and the USGA is lucky that everyone else collapsed down the stretch.

[winflop]

I think the members play the greens above 14.

No way.  You do realize that a linoleum floor runs around 13.

USGA needs to get its head out of its rear end on the ball moving rulings on the green on several fronts:
- The penalty either needs to be assessed ASAP or it doesn't.  This "we'll decide after the round" is a laughingstock.
- I can understand the rule being applied out on the course but not on the green
- If you can't put your putter gently down behind the ball without touching it, and causing the ball to move, then maybe the greens are cut too short?

Something's gotta give.  I love the fast greens and I would rather the penalty not be applied on the green in the way it is being applied.  The way it's being done today is a joke, and the USGA is lucky that everyone else collapsed down the stretch.