[martyup]

[quote author=paloalto link=topic=15750.msg173136#msg173136 date=1474825297]
At the beginning of the game the announcers frequently used the phrase intellectual brutality.  I cringe every time I hear it.  It sounds pretentious to me.    Some fans of sports teams are turned off by any reference to Stanford athletes/students as "smart kids".  Everyone knows they are smart kids.    No need to brag about it.

I absolutely agree.  "Brutality" is not a concept I want to be associated with.  Some forms of bullying might be termed intellectual brutality.  I thought this term was some unofficial tagline promoted by the press, but then, after the touchdown reception, two young men in street clothes and head seats are seen hugging A-W with a shirt that says "The Home of Intellectual Brutality".    Official support for self-reference to brutality is wrong.

Substitute "Toughness" or "Strength" for "Brutality" and I'm all for it.
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This is football.  Bullying is allowed.  Brutality is allowed, within certain specified limits (that aren't always enforced correctly as we saw last night).  IMO, the football field is no place for PC sensitivity.

[martyup]

[quote author=paloalto link=topic=15750.msg173136#msg173136 date=1474825297]
At the beginning of the game the announcers frequently used the phrase intellectual brutality.  I cringe every time I hear it.  It sounds pretentious to me.    Some fans of sports teams are turned off by any reference to Stanford athletes/students as "smart kids".  Everyone knows they are smart kids.    No need to brag about it.

I absolutely agree.  "Brutality" is not a concept I want to be associated with.  Some forms of bullying might be termed intellectual brutality.  I thought this term was some unofficial tagline promoted by the press, but then, after the touchdown reception, two young men in street clothes and head seats are seen hugging A-W with a shirt that says "The Home of Intellectual Brutality".    Official support for self-reference to brutality is wrong.

Substitute "Toughness" or "Strength" for "Brutality" and I'm all for it.
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This is football.  Bullying is allowed.  Brutality is allowed, within certain specified limits (that aren't always enforced correctly as we saw last night).  IMO, the football field is no place for PC sensitivity.