[stupac2]

Also, this is the same level of violation (Level II) that Stanford was convicted of (if that's the right term) earlier this year and Stanford didn't have to vacate any wins for games in which Cajuste played.  Same $5,000 fine. I think we can only be on a low to medium height horse on this one.

My understanding is that Cajuste didn't play in any games between the time of his impermissible benefits and his punishment for accepting them. Either way I think "sweetheart loan for a bike and a couple movie tickets" is a different thing from "academic fraud", whatever the NCAA thinks be damned.

So, in other words, nobody won the 2012 game. Interesting.
Vacating wins always struck me as a little silly. If you won the game you won the game. The NCAA, despite all its powers, can't change history.

Is it at all surprising that the NCAA does something monumentally silly?

[stupac2]

Also, this is the same level of violation (Level II) that Stanford was convicted of (if that's the right term) earlier this year and Stanford didn't have to vacate any wins for games in which Cajuste played.  Same $5,000 fine. I think we can only be on a low to medium height horse on this one.

My understanding is that Cajuste didn't play in any games between the time of his impermissible benefits and his punishment for accepting them. Either way I think "sweetheart loan for a bike and a couple movie tickets" is a different thing from "academic fraud", whatever the NCAA thinks be damned.

So, in other words, nobody won the 2012 game. Interesting.
Vacating wins always struck me as a little silly. If you won the game you won the game. The NCAA, despite all its powers, can't change history.

Is it at all surprising that the NCAA does something monumentally silly?