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Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer

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01-11-2017, 07:06 PM

(01-11-2017, 05:28 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:The complexity comes from reading the defense, recognizing the alignment and adjusting the call at the line of scrimmage to the play that gives us the best chance to succeed.Â When you have a QB who can do it well, it works spectacularly (as in 2010, 2011, and 2015).Â When you don't have a QB who can execute it well, we struggle offensively (2012, 2014, 2016).

Do you think part of the brain trust's desire to keep the level of complexity high is Andrew Luck's "fault"? (Please note the quotes.) Some sort of conflating by the coaching staff of the complexity of our playbook being critical to our success vs. Andrew Luck as a transcendent player being critical to our success due to the complexity of our playbook (with Kevin Hogan's redshirt senior, 4th year starter, performance being as close as we've gotten to an Andrew Luck type performance since, well, Andrew Luck). Or, in other words, we almost need an NFL starter type QB to run our NFL offense.

GOOD offense years...
2015 38 pts/gm (ranked #18 in scoring offense in nation) - Hogan 4th season
2011 43 pts/gm (#7) - Luck 3rd season
2010 40 pts/gm (#12) - Luck 2nd season
2009 36 pts/gm (#16) - Luck 1st season

MEDIOCRE or WORSE offense years...
2016 26 pts/gm (#82) - Burns then Chryst
2014 27 pts/gm (#79) - Hogan 3rd season
2013 32 pts/gm (#45) - Hogan 2nd season
2012 28 pts/gm (#72) - Hogan 1st season (Nunes)
2008 26 pts/gm (#66) - Pritchard

#49

larkinforever

01-11-2017, 07:06 PM

(01-11-2017, 05:28 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:The complexity comes from reading the defense, recognizing the alignment and adjusting the call at the line of scrimmage to the play that gives us the best chance to succeed.Â When you have a QB who can do it well, it works spectacularly (as in 2010, 2011, and 2015).Â When you don't have a QB who can execute it well, we struggle offensively (2012, 2014, 2016).

Do you think part of the brain trust's desire to keep the level of complexity high is Andrew Luck's "fault"? (Please note the quotes.) Some sort of conflating by the coaching staff of the complexity of our playbook being critical to our success vs. Andrew Luck as a transcendent player being critical to our success due to the complexity of our playbook (with Kevin Hogan's redshirt senior, 4th year starter, performance being as close as we've gotten to an Andrew Luck type performance since, well, Andrew Luck). Or, in other words, we almost need an NFL starter type QB to run our NFL offense.

GOOD offense years...
2015 38 pts/gm (ranked #18 in scoring offense in nation) - Hogan 4th season
2011 43 pts/gm (#7) - Luck 3rd season
2010 40 pts/gm (#12) - Luck 2nd season
2009 36 pts/gm (#16) - Luck 1st season

MEDIOCRE or WORSE offense years...
2016 26 pts/gm (#82) - Burns then Chryst
2014 27 pts/gm (#79) - Hogan 3rd season
2013 32 pts/gm (#45) - Hogan 2nd season
2012 28 pts/gm (#72) - Hogan 1st season (Nunes)
2008 26 pts/gm (#66) - Pritchard

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Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by pcgoode - 01-11-2017, 09:07 AM

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Re: QB Situation - by socalstanfan1 - 01-11-2017, 09:26 AM

Re: QB Situation - by pcgoode - 01-11-2017, 09:28 AM

Re: QB Situation - by standfan - 01-11-2017, 09:30 AM

Re: QB Situation - by needle - 01-11-2017, 09:36 AM

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Re: QB Situation - by Roberton3 - 01-11-2017, 09:48 AM

Re: QB Situation - by FarmBoy - 01-11-2017, 09:53 AM

Re: QB Situation - by StanfordIndians1 - 01-11-2017, 09:58 AM

Re: QB Situation - by French Rage - 01-11-2017, 10:11 AM

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Re: QB Situation - by donkey687 - 01-11-2017, 10:33 AM

Re: QB Situation - by CornFed - 01-11-2017, 10:34 AM

Re: QB Situation - by Langdude - 01-11-2017, 10:44 AM

Re: QB Situation - by OutsiderFan - 01-11-2017, 11:08 AM

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Re: QB Situation - by fullmetal - 01-11-2017, 11:44 AM

Re: QB Situation - by larkinforever - 01-11-2017, 11:48 AM

Re: QB Situation - by StanfordIndians1 - 01-11-2017, 12:00 PM

Re: QB Situation - by Goose - 01-11-2017, 12:02 PM

Re: QB Situation - by TreesAndBirds - 01-11-2017, 12:03 PM

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Re: QB Situation - by Hank 91 - 01-11-2017, 12:55 PM

Re: QB Situation - by fullmetal - 01-11-2017, 12:58 PM

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Re: QB Situation - by OutsiderFan - 01-11-2017, 02:51 PM

Re: QB Situation - by fullmetal - 01-11-2017, 03:13 PM

Re: QB Situation - by Boston Card - 01-11-2017, 03:58 PM

Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by winflop - 01-11-2017, 04:46 PM

Re: QB Situation - by Treebound - 01-11-2017, 04:48 PM

Re: QB Situation - by Boston Card - 01-11-2017, 05:13 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by DC 86 - 01-11-2017, 05:15 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by thunder_chik - 01-11-2017, 05:20 PM

Re: QB Situation - by Boston Card - 01-11-2017, 05:28 PM

Re: QB Situation - by jacketree - 01-11-2017, 05:42 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by fullmetal - 01-11-2017, 06:24 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by Card Fan in OR - 01-11-2017, 06:28 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by donkey687 - 01-11-2017, 06:32 PM

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Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by teejers1 - 01-11-2017, 06:47 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by washingtonismoney - 01-11-2017, 06:50 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by jacketree - 01-11-2017, 06:56 PM

Re: QB Situation - by larkinforever - 01-11-2017, 07:06 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by VFRing98 - 01-11-2017, 07:06 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by DC 86 - 01-11-2017, 07:11 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by fullmetal - 01-11-2017, 07:13 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by jacketree - 01-11-2017, 07:29 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by jacketree - 01-11-2017, 07:33 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by GK3 - 01-11-2017, 07:39 PM

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Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by DC 86 - 01-11-2017, 08:05 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by washingtonismoney - 01-11-2017, 08:10 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by washingtonismoney - 01-11-2017, 08:12 PM

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Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by OutsiderFan - 01-11-2017, 08:14 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by DC 86 - 01-11-2017, 08:42 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by ThePassionOfTheChryst - 01-11-2017, 09:04 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by socalstanfan1 - 01-11-2017, 09:28 PM

Re: QB Situation - by CTcard - 01-11-2017, 09:36 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by Goose - 01-11-2017, 09:49 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by Boston Card - 01-11-2017, 09:56 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by winflop - 01-11-2017, 10:25 PM

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Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by Boston Card - 01-11-2017, 10:57 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by washingtonismoney - 01-11-2017, 11:04 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by Boston Card - 01-11-2017, 11:12 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by Boston Card - 01-11-2017, 11:16 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by qwerty49 - 01-11-2017, 11:55 PM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by Phogge - 01-12-2017, 02:00 AM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by ThePassionOfTheChryst - 01-12-2017, 03:59 AM

Re: Chryst out 6+ months, Burns to transfer - by OutsiderFan - 01-12-2017, 07:20 AM

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