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[quote author=Mick link=topic=16598.msg195584#msg195584 date=1500360716]
[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=16598.msg195570#msg195570 date=1500329662]
Can someone explain how Muir "botched" the Rittman firing?

Winflop didn't say Muir botched the Rittman firing.  He said Muir botched the "Rittman situation." 
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The Rittman "situation" includes his gross mishandling of the player revolt/meltdown and their helicopter parents, the investigation into Rittman's NCAA violations and the situation involving the S&C coach.
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again, you speak as if the player revolt/meltdown and helicopter parents was something that happened to Rittman and that he had no responsibility in diffusing the situation before it led to open revolt, and that Muir somehow foisted this upon him.  The fact that it even reached Muir suggests the situation had already spiraled out of control and whatever you may think of how Muir handled it once it reached his desk, you wonder what it says that it got there in the first place.
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I do not speak as if there was nothing there until Muir got involved nor do I believe Muir foisted this upon Rittman. Please show me where I gave any indication whatsoever of either of those claims. I think Muir handled it horribly once it got to his desk. He had a responsibility to hear all parties involved equally, gather facts in an impartial way, and then make what was undoubtedly a difficult judgment call (although perhaps not with 20/20 hindsight). He didn't listen to both "camps" players, he didn't communicate well with one of the camps, the investigation/fact gathering was conducted by a firm that couldn't possibly be neutral, and he allowed Rittman to resign when he should have been fired as soon as Muir knew there was a major violation. I could go on.

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[quote author=winflop link=topic=16598.msg195593#msg195593 date=1500398291]
[quote author=Mick link=topic=16598.msg195584#msg195584 date=1500360716]
[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=16598.msg195570#msg195570 date=1500329662]
Can someone explain how Muir "botched" the Rittman firing?

Winflop didn't say Muir botched the Rittman firing.  He said Muir botched the "Rittman situation." 
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The Rittman "situation" includes his gross mishandling of the player revolt/meltdown and their helicopter parents, the investigation into Rittman's NCAA violations and the situation involving the S&C coach.
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again, you speak as if the player revolt/meltdown and helicopter parents was something that happened to Rittman and that he had no responsibility in diffusing the situation before it led to open revolt, and that Muir somehow foisted this upon him.  The fact that it even reached Muir suggests the situation had already spiraled out of control and whatever you may think of how Muir handled it once it reached his desk, you wonder what it says that it got there in the first place.
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I do not speak as if there was nothing there until Muir got involved nor do I believe Muir foisted this upon Rittman. Please show me where I gave any indication whatsoever of either of those claims. I think Muir handled it horribly once it got to his desk. He had a responsibility to hear all parties involved equally, gather facts in an impartial way, and then make what was undoubtedly a difficult judgment call (although perhaps not with 20/20 hindsight). He didn't listen to both "camps" players, he didn't communicate well with one of the camps, the investigation/fact gathering was conducted by a firm that couldn't possibly be neutral, and he allowed Rittman to resign when he should have been fired as soon as Muir knew there was a major violation. I could go on.