[washingtonismoney]

Eh, I think Helton is a mediocre coach. My guess is that once Darnold is gone that'll be revealed (and don't forget that Helton initially didn't go with Darnold despite voluminous reporting that he was the better QB).

Yeah, Helton did bupkis with Cody Kessler (a 3rd rounder), Max Browne (admittedly mediocre)...and only started doing stuff once Darnold came on the scene. A coach at SC who can't win with a 3rd rounder QB may be many things -- a raconteur, a philanthropist, a hobbyist piano player -- but he's probably not *good.*

And even saying Helton is good with Darnold is giving Clay more credit than he deserves. Certainly the second half of 2016 was thrilling. But SC has hardly been great so far this year -- +12 ppg margin, +1.25 yards per play -- solid, rather than great, despite a top-five pick at QB and a bunch of other great players.

[washingtonismoney]

Eh, I think Helton is a mediocre coach. My guess is that once Darnold is gone that'll be revealed (and don't forget that Helton initially didn't go with Darnold despite voluminous reporting that he was the better QB).

Yeah, Helton did bupkis with Cody Kessler (a 3rd rounder), Max Browne (admittedly mediocre)...and only started doing stuff once Darnold came on the scene. A coach at SC who can't win with a 3rd rounder QB may be many things -- a raconteur, a philanthropist, a hobbyist piano player -- but he's probably not *good.*

And even saying Helton is good with Darnold is giving Clay more credit than he deserves. Certainly the second half of 2016 was thrilling. But SC has hardly been great so far this year -- +12 ppg margin, +1.25 yards per play -- solid, rather than great, despite a top-five pick at QB and a bunch of other great players.