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BS Hulk. Stanford players don't commit those penalties like they have this season. You could argue that it wasn't Mike White's fault that his players played dirty but they were encouraged to test the limits of the officials. My cousin started for him for two years and there were plenty of times we discussed the play.

I don't know, Phogge.  You seem to be implying some kind of equivalence that Shaw and his staff "encouraged players to test the limits of the officials"?  I presume that is not what you think, but as Hulk says, the players know not to do these things.  Unless one thinks that it is possible that the coaches have turned a blind eye to these stupid penalties, hoping to see "more aggressive" play, (which I, for one, do not) then I think it is far more on the players that they allowed their in-game emotions to overwhelm their judgment.

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BS Hulk. Stanford players don't commit those penalties like they have this season. You could argue that it wasn't Mike White's fault that his players played dirty but they were encouraged to test the limits of the officials. My cousin started for him for two years and there were plenty of times we discussed the play.

I don't know, Phogge.  You seem to be implying some kind of equivalence that Shaw and his staff "encouraged players to test the limits of the officials"?  I presume that is not what you think, but as Hulk says, the players know not to do these things.  Unless one thinks that it is possible that the coaches have turned a blind eye to these stupid penalties, hoping to see "more aggressive" play, (which I, for one, do not) then I think it is far more on the players that they allowed their in-game emotions to overwhelm their judgment.