[Mick]

Hernandez has proven that he can’t hit. At best he’s a fourth OF. Probably a 5th. He could platoon if they pick up Dyson. Or if Parker stays in the mix. Which is not a happy thought

They need one more outfielder. If they could get Hamilton without giving up Shaw, Beede, Ramos or Duggar that would work. The Reds had success with Duval - who many thought was a AAAA guy.  Maybe they could do the same with Williamson.  Parker is too old to trade.

Hamilton brings so much defense.


[quote author=qwerty49 link=topic=18541.msg221513#msg221513 date=1516115557]
Bochy (assuming he doesn’t retire) is way too by-the-book to bat Posey leadoff. He did put Pence there a little, but Pence has some speed.

If they don’t get a true CF they’ll give Hernandez a shot in spring training and if he can hit, he starts and leads off.

This is a vastly improved lineup - last year they had Crawford hitting 5th and sometimes cleanup.

My guess:

CF (Hernandez or someone else)
Panik
Posey
McCutcheon
Belt
Longoria
Crawford
Pence
P

When Posey is out, everybody else moves up and the C bats 8th or 9th, depending if Bum is pitching.

They might flip Crawford and Pence, since if Pence hits 8th he might lead the league in K’s, swinging at everything in sight after he takes his usual called strike one over the outside corner.



[quote author=Mick link=topic=18541.msg221501#msg221501 date=1516103012]
[quote author=lex24 link=topic=18541.msg221486#msg221486 date=1516077659]
My current lineup:

Posey
Panik
McCutchen
Longoria
Belt
Pence
Crawford
Pitcher
Dyson /Hamilton/Duggar/ (or UGH Hernandez)

Posey is the highest OBP/Ave guy they have. And if the speed guy hits 9th you can hit and run with Posey cause he makes contact. Plus doing that helps offset his biggest offensive weakness - the double play ball. Yeah he can’t run. But he’s a smart base runner at least. Plus he’s their best hitter. So get him the most AB’s. Having McCutheon and Longoria allows them to take Posey out of the middle of the order.  To me he’s their best option at leadoff.

I’d love Hamilton if they can get him fairly cheap. He takes care of the OF problem - no one covers more ground.  And he steals bases  His OBP is way too low, however,  to lead him off. He’s wasted at 8 as his speed on the bases is his greatest offensive asset. So 9 makes sense.

Great idea, Posey at leadoff.  I don't think it will happen, flouts baseball "wisdom" too much, but it would take the pressure off of him to hit for power.  His OBP could really soar.  And I think you could count on a record number of double plays.
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The problem with Venezuelan Hernandez is that he's a warm weather hitter.  In April/March/May/Sept/Oct, he hit .175.  In June/July/August, he hit .325.  .229 in the first half, .281 in the second half.

[Mick]

Hernandez has proven that he can’t hit. At best he’s a fourth OF. Probably a 5th. He could platoon if they pick up Dyson. Or if Parker stays in the mix. Which is not a happy thought

They need one more outfielder. If they could get Hamilton without giving up Shaw, Beede, Ramos or Duggar that would work. The Reds had success with Duval - who many thought was a AAAA guy.  Maybe they could do the same with Williamson.  Parker is too old to trade.

Hamilton brings so much defense.


[quote author=qwerty49 link=topic=18541.msg221513#msg221513 date=1516115557]
Bochy (assuming he doesn’t retire) is way too by-the-book to bat Posey leadoff. He did put Pence there a little, but Pence has some speed.

If they don’t get a true CF they’ll give Hernandez a shot in spring training and if he can hit, he starts and leads off.

This is a vastly improved lineup - last year they had Crawford hitting 5th and sometimes cleanup.

My guess:

CF (Hernandez or someone else)
Panik
Posey
McCutcheon
Belt
Longoria
Crawford
Pence
P

When Posey is out, everybody else moves up and the C bats 8th or 9th, depending if Bum is pitching.

They might flip Crawford and Pence, since if Pence hits 8th he might lead the league in K’s, swinging at everything in sight after he takes his usual called strike one over the outside corner.



[quote author=Mick link=topic=18541.msg221501#msg221501 date=1516103012]
[quote author=lex24 link=topic=18541.msg221486#msg221486 date=1516077659]
My current lineup:

Posey
Panik
McCutchen
Longoria
Belt
Pence
Crawford
Pitcher
Dyson /Hamilton/Duggar/ (or UGH Hernandez)

Posey is the highest OBP/Ave guy they have. And if the speed guy hits 9th you can hit and run with Posey cause he makes contact. Plus doing that helps offset his biggest offensive weakness - the double play ball. Yeah he can’t run. But he’s a smart base runner at least. Plus he’s their best hitter. So get him the most AB’s. Having McCutheon and Longoria allows them to take Posey out of the middle of the order.  To me he’s their best option at leadoff.

I’d love Hamilton if they can get him fairly cheap. He takes care of the OF problem - no one covers more ground.  And he steals bases  His OBP is way too low, however,  to lead him off. He’s wasted at 8 as his speed on the bases is his greatest offensive asset. So 9 makes sense.

Great idea, Posey at leadoff.  I don't think it will happen, flouts baseball "wisdom" too much, but it would take the pressure off of him to hit for power.  His OBP could really soar.  And I think you could count on a record number of double plays.
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The problem with Venezuelan Hernandez is that he's a warm weather hitter.  In April/March/May/Sept/Oct, he hit .175.  In June/July/August, he hit .325.  .229 in the first half, .281 in the second half.