[ColoradoTree]

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McDaniels backs out after verbally agreeing to the job.  Stay classy, Patriots!

(Explanation for those who don't get the reference: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/remem...r-one-day/ )

It's not clear that McDaniels ever gave that verbal commitment, per ESPN. My money's on Irsay jumping the gun.
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Usually I would be the first one to dump on Irsay, but McDaniels convinced four assistant coaches around the league to quit their jobs to join him in Indianapolis, this is on him.
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Clearly more facts have come out than I saw in the initial reporting and I agree this is on McDaniels not Irsay.

But if I'm one of those assistants I'm looking for an off ramp. I know they have signed contracts but if Irsay can find a way to not pay them he will.

And if I'm Luck I'm demanding a trade. Sticking a new HC with assistants he may or may not know/work well with is a recipe for more disasters.
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The Colts have told media that they'll honor the contracts of the assistants that have been hired, so I don't think that's a concern right now.  It's an awful situation for all concerned, and if you're a new head coach, it's wild you wouldn't be able to assemble your own staff fully, but at the same time, who else are you going to get for those jobs at this late date?  Coaching rosters have been filled out, and teams can block an assistant from interviewing for lateral moves.  So every coordinator hire would be a position coach somewhere, or it would be someone who no one else in the league wanted to sign.  I mean, if the new HC doesn't have a great relationship with the assistants that the team hired in consultation with McDaniels, then they can move on from them next year.  But those guys get this year, at least, if they want it. Of course, I can absolutely understand them wanting to move on to a fresh situation right now, and it's not ideal at all for the new head coach to be stuck with these guys.  But unless those guys want to sit out a year of coaching, there might not be places to go right now. 

Why the animosity toward Irsay and suggesting he wouldn't pay them?  From what I've seen, he was loyal to a fault with Pagano and with Grigson, and his inclination seems to be to keep guys too long rather than let them go too soon. 

[ColoradoTree]

[quote author=DC 86 link=topic=18689.msg223354#msg223354 date=1518027797]
[quote author=winflop link=topic=18689.msg223308#msg223308 date=1517975655]
[quote author=burger link=topic=18689.msg223299#msg223299 date=1517967029]
McDaniels backs out after verbally agreeing to the job.  Stay classy, Patriots!

(Explanation for those who don't get the reference: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/remem...r-one-day/ )

It's not clear that McDaniels ever gave that verbal commitment, per ESPN. My money's on Irsay jumping the gun.
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Usually I would be the first one to dump on Irsay, but McDaniels convinced four assistant coaches around the league to quit their jobs to join him in Indianapolis, this is on him.
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Clearly more facts have come out than I saw in the initial reporting and I agree this is on McDaniels not Irsay.

But if I'm one of those assistants I'm looking for an off ramp. I know they have signed contracts but if Irsay can find a way to not pay them he will.

And if I'm Luck I'm demanding a trade. Sticking a new HC with assistants he may or may not know/work well with is a recipe for more disasters.
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The Colts have told media that they'll honor the contracts of the assistants that have been hired, so I don't think that's a concern right now.  It's an awful situation for all concerned, and if you're a new head coach, it's wild you wouldn't be able to assemble your own staff fully, but at the same time, who else are you going to get for those jobs at this late date?  Coaching rosters have been filled out, and teams can block an assistant from interviewing for lateral moves.  So every coordinator hire would be a position coach somewhere, or it would be someone who no one else in the league wanted to sign.  I mean, if the new HC doesn't have a great relationship with the assistants that the team hired in consultation with McDaniels, then they can move on from them next year.  But those guys get this year, at least, if they want it. Of course, I can absolutely understand them wanting to move on to a fresh situation right now, and it's not ideal at all for the new head coach to be stuck with these guys.  But unless those guys want to sit out a year of coaching, there might not be places to go right now. 

Why the animosity toward Irsay and suggesting he wouldn't pay them?  From what I've seen, he was loyal to a fault with Pagano and with Grigson, and his inclination seems to be to keep guys too long rather than let them go too soon.