[Mick]

[quote author=winflop link=topic=16966.msg224204#msg224204 date=1518924210]
If I were an Oregon taxpayer I'd be furious that my tax dollars are paying for his scholarship. And I'm ticked the Pac-12 has done nothing about this - even if they really can't, they still should.

Winflop, I respect your opinion tremendously on a wide range of issues, but I respectfully disagree here. I am from Oregon and couldn't be prouder of my state. Although the article suggests some questions as to what exactly even happened, the young man took responsibility for his crime, pled guilty, and paid the time (and presumably went through the extremely arduous parole conditions that accompany most sex offenders). Despite that, you think he should continue to be punished for the rest of his life and denied even basic opportunities like the ability to obtain an education?

I am glad my state shares my view that once he has completed his punishment and any accompanying re-entry requirements, he should have the same access to opportunities as any other citizen. If anything, I question the Oregonian's motives here, because typically crimes committed by a minor should not be made public and are under seal, even if in this case they weren't sealed.

Would you seriously prefer that this guy be barred from pursuing an education and a career? And meanwhile, if you're a Casino magnet, a Hollywood producer, or even the President of the United States (and you can pick your partisan poison, Trump or Clinton, B., same statement applies) you can do far worse to far more people and face no legal consequences whatsoever? There are a lot of messed up things in the world, but this one that I'm not going to lose sleep about.
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+1.  I absolutely agree that all appropriate criminal penalties should apply.  But I draw the line at losing one's job or educational opportunities.  Otherwise the ex-con becomes a magnate for problems outside of their criminal penalties.

[Mick]

[quote author=winflop link=topic=16966.msg224204#msg224204 date=1518924210]
If I were an Oregon taxpayer I'd be furious that my tax dollars are paying for his scholarship. And I'm ticked the Pac-12 has done nothing about this - even if they really can't, they still should.

Winflop, I respect your opinion tremendously on a wide range of issues, but I respectfully disagree here. I am from Oregon and couldn't be prouder of my state. Although the article suggests some questions as to what exactly even happened, the young man took responsibility for his crime, pled guilty, and paid the time (and presumably went through the extremely arduous parole conditions that accompany most sex offenders). Despite that, you think he should continue to be punished for the rest of his life and denied even basic opportunities like the ability to obtain an education?

I am glad my state shares my view that once he has completed his punishment and any accompanying re-entry requirements, he should have the same access to opportunities as any other citizen. If anything, I question the Oregonian's motives here, because typically crimes committed by a minor should not be made public and are under seal, even if in this case they weren't sealed.

Would you seriously prefer that this guy be barred from pursuing an education and a career? And meanwhile, if you're a Casino magnet, a Hollywood producer, or even the President of the United States (and you can pick your partisan poison, Trump or Clinton, B., same statement applies) you can do far worse to far more people and face no legal consequences whatsoever? There are a lot of messed up things in the world, but this one that I'm not going to lose sleep about.
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+1.  I absolutely agree that all appropriate criminal penalties should apply.  But I draw the line at losing one's job or educational opportunities.  Otherwise the ex-con becomes a magnate for problems outside of their criminal penalties.