[JeffInCorvallis]

The performance is what matters. Not who is leading it. I don’t care who the coach is or isn’t and neither should anyone, as long as they are winning on and off the field.

Right now I love Kyle Shanahan as Niners Head Coach. But Sean McVay is a cautionary tale of the perils of falling in love with a person doing a job over their performance in the job. I could say the same for Jared Goff and his insane contract extension.

Sorry, I can't agree. I care too much about Stanford as an institution to say "I don't care, just win, baby".

Putting our student-athletes in a position where they can be successful is important. Character, leadership, and integrity are more important.

I don't want Urban Meyer, or Mike Leach, or the likes of Jerry Sandusky. Doesn't matter how many championships they might win.

This has to be the biggest self-own of a post ever.  You're defensiveness is absolutely off the charts, because this reply assumes mine is advocating for what you are against, when it absolutely is not.

Let me re-iterate what I said, so it is 100% clear:  

It doesn't matter who the coach is, as long as the team wins on AND off the field.  Nowhere in that statement does it say winning at all costs.  Nowhere does it say anything other than on field performance isn't important. 

So you can't be for a team that wins and makes you proud of it off the field.  What the hell else do you want?  Please don't tell me David Shaw is the only possible person who can make Stanford a winner on and off the field.  To be clear, I'm not advocating for his dismissal, just trying to get fans to separate the performance requirement from the individual responsible for it.  Performance, not who is leading it, is what matters. 

There is a saying in college football. This isn't as sartorially splendorious as I believe I've seen, but it goes something like this:  Coaches who fall in love with QBs regardless of performance get fired. AD's who fall in love with coaches regardless of performance get fired.

Let's agree on this: David Shaw is not the only person who can make Stanford a winner on and off the field. This season has not been his best. Scholarships went unused. Players didn't develop. There were also a ton of injuries for whatever reason. For right now Shaw's earned a pass in my book. A few more seasons without some change in direction and I might be convinced otherwise. Remember, too, the list of proven head coaches who would make Stanford a destination is short.

[JeffInCorvallis]

The performance is what matters. Not who is leading it. I don’t care who the coach is or isn’t and neither should anyone, as long as they are winning on and off the field.

Right now I love Kyle Shanahan as Niners Head Coach. But Sean McVay is a cautionary tale of the perils of falling in love with a person doing a job over their performance in the job. I could say the same for Jared Goff and his insane contract extension.

Sorry, I can't agree. I care too much about Stanford as an institution to say "I don't care, just win, baby".

Putting our student-athletes in a position where they can be successful is important. Character, leadership, and integrity are more important.

I don't want Urban Meyer, or Mike Leach, or the likes of Jerry Sandusky. Doesn't matter how many championships they might win.

This has to be the biggest self-own of a post ever.  You're defensiveness is absolutely off the charts, because this reply assumes mine is advocating for what you are against, when it absolutely is not.

Let me re-iterate what I said, so it is 100% clear:  

It doesn't matter who the coach is, as long as the team wins on AND off the field.  Nowhere in that statement does it say winning at all costs.  Nowhere does it say anything other than on field performance isn't important. 

So you can't be for a team that wins and makes you proud of it off the field.  What the hell else do you want?  Please don't tell me David Shaw is the only possible person who can make Stanford a winner on and off the field.  To be clear, I'm not advocating for his dismissal, just trying to get fans to separate the performance requirement from the individual responsible for it.  Performance, not who is leading it, is what matters. 

There is a saying in college football. This isn't as sartorially splendorious as I believe I've seen, but it goes something like this:  Coaches who fall in love with QBs regardless of performance get fired. AD's who fall in love with coaches regardless of performance get fired.

Let's agree on this: David Shaw is not the only person who can make Stanford a winner on and off the field. This season has not been his best. Scholarships went unused. Players didn't develop. There were also a ton of injuries for whatever reason. For right now Shaw's earned a pass in my book. A few more seasons without some change in direction and I might be convinced otherwise. Remember, too, the list of proven head coaches who would make Stanford a destination is short.