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Yes, but wouldn't we all agree that our problem with the pandemic in the US isn't that we didn't hear about it until January? Would our national response have been significantly more effective if we'd known in late November? Would that have meant testing and masks and such or an organized managed national effort?

Maybe so... if the media and the Democrats hadn’t screamed non-stop that this was all just a hoax concocted by the Administration to divert attention from the Ukraine investigation and impeachment, which they indisputably would have done.

And if that had been the case, I would gladly join you and others in chastising Democrats for not taking the pandemic seriously enough.  But instead of your hypothetical counterfactual, I am going to deal with the situation as it actually occurred, with the President not taking it seriously enough despite warnings not just from Democrats, but from experts in public health.  We also have 130,000 Americans dead, so forgive me for wondering whether a different approach by the President might have resulted in that number being smaller.

BC

Wait a minute...Your hypothetical counterfactual is just as hypothetical and counterfactual as mine -- which of course is pretty much the definition of Monday-morning quarterbacking.  The things he DID do were criticized heavily at the time and NONE of the Democrats ever said anything close to "hey, we've got a big problem here Nancy and Adam and Chuck, let's call a halt to this whole impeachment thing and focus on the real problem.  Stop calling the President an existential threat every single chance you get and start talking about the REAL existential threat!"  If THEY had done that, I'd be praising them right along with you.  But forgive me for wondering whether a different approach by the Democrats and media -- one that wasn't so clearly focused on all things Ukrainian and non-COVID -- might have prompted a  more effective early response from the Administration.  Oh, and that part about Dr. Fauci saying early on that it wasn't that big a threat, that probably wasn't too helpful, either.

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Yes, but wouldn't we all agree that our problem with the pandemic in the US isn't that we didn't hear about it until January? Would our national response have been significantly more effective if we'd known in late November? Would that have meant testing and masks and such or an organized managed national effort?

Maybe so... if the media and the Democrats hadn’t screamed non-stop that this was all just a hoax concocted by the Administration to divert attention from the Ukraine investigation and impeachment, which they indisputably would have done.

And if that had been the case, I would gladly join you and others in chastising Democrats for not taking the pandemic seriously enough.  But instead of your hypothetical counterfactual, I am going to deal with the situation as it actually occurred, with the President not taking it seriously enough despite warnings not just from Democrats, but from experts in public health.  We also have 130,000 Americans dead, so forgive me for wondering whether a different approach by the President might have resulted in that number being smaller.

BC

Wait a minute...Your hypothetical counterfactual is just as hypothetical and counterfactual as mine -- which of course is pretty much the definition of Monday-morning quarterbacking.  The things he DID do were criticized heavily at the time and NONE of the Democrats ever said anything close to "hey, we've got a big problem here Nancy and Adam and Chuck, let's call a halt to this whole impeachment thing and focus on the real problem.  Stop calling the President an existential threat every single chance you get and start talking about the REAL existential threat!"  If THEY had done that, I'd be praising them right along with you.  But forgive me for wondering whether a different approach by the Democrats and media -- one that wasn't so clearly focused on all things Ukrainian and non-COVID -- might have prompted a  more effective early response from the Administration.  Oh, and that part about Dr. Fauci saying early on that it wasn't that big a threat, that probably wasn't too helpful, either.