[oregontim]

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Yes, but wouldn't we all agree that our problem with the pandemic in the US isn't that we didn't hear about it until January? Would our national response have been significantly more effective if we'd known in late November? Would that have meant testing and masks and such or an organized managed national effort?

Maybe so... if the media and the Democrats hadn’t screamed non-stop that this was all just a hoax concocted by the Administration to divert attention from the Ukraine investigation and impeachment, which they indisputably would have done.

... instead of your hypothetical counterfactual, I am going to deal with the situation as it actually occurred, with the President not taking it seriously enough despite warnings not just from Democrats, but from experts in public health.  We also have 130,000 Americans dead, so forgive me for wondering whether a different approach by the President might have resulted in that number being smaller.



BC

Wait a minute...Your hypothetical counterfactual is just as hypothetical and counterfactual as mine ... The things he DID do were criticized heavily at the time and NONE of the Democrats ever said anything close to "hey, we've got a big problem here Nancy and Adam and Chuck, let's call a halt to this whole impeachment thing and focus on the real problem.

Whoa, so you're saying the president not paying enough attention, and 130,000 dead, is counterfactual? And that Dems should have called a halt to impeachment? Impeachment was in December, the Senate Trial ended Feb. 5. The catastrophic presidential failure of pandemic leadership started in late February and wasn't serious until his speech to the nation on March 12. The timelines don't match. Dems would have needed a time machine to do what you suggest they should have.

[oregontim]

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Yes, but wouldn't we all agree that our problem with the pandemic in the US isn't that we didn't hear about it until January? Would our national response have been significantly more effective if we'd known in late November? Would that have meant testing and masks and such or an organized managed national effort?

Maybe so... if the media and the Democrats hadn’t screamed non-stop that this was all just a hoax concocted by the Administration to divert attention from the Ukraine investigation and impeachment, which they indisputably would have done.

... instead of your hypothetical counterfactual, I am going to deal with the situation as it actually occurred, with the President not taking it seriously enough despite warnings not just from Democrats, but from experts in public health.  We also have 130,000 Americans dead, so forgive me for wondering whether a different approach by the President might have resulted in that number being smaller.



BC

Wait a minute...Your hypothetical counterfactual is just as hypothetical and counterfactual as mine ... The things he DID do were criticized heavily at the time and NONE of the Democrats ever said anything close to "hey, we've got a big problem here Nancy and Adam and Chuck, let's call a halt to this whole impeachment thing and focus on the real problem.

Whoa, so you're saying the president not paying enough attention, and 130,000 dead, is counterfactual? And that Dems should have called a halt to impeachment? Impeachment was in December, the Senate Trial ended Feb. 5. The catastrophic presidential failure of pandemic leadership started in late February and wasn't serious until his speech to the nation on March 12. The timelines don't match. Dems would have needed a time machine to do what you suggest they should have.