[DocSavage87]

My own thought is that all of the attributes of the country we value - its strong anti-authoritarian streak, its cultural and ethnic diversity (this is the most pluralistic nation in the world) - all go in dead reverse when we are faced with a phenomenon in which compliance with established authority and obedience to social dictates is required.

GR, you can keep writing this (as do I), but I don't think it's going to make a dent among the TDS/Orange Man Bad crowd who firmly believe that if only there were a different President, then Americans would be magically compliant, stop eating junk food, stop smoking, start working out, would lose weight, stop venerating the individual and start giving a damn about each other.  And the seas would recede.  Or so I'm told.

I've been told by others (favorite tactic of the Idiot In Chief) that straw men arguments are the last resort of those who want to see the other side in the worst possible light.  Maybe I should believe that MAGA = QAnon and/or white supremacists.  You look at twitter and you see ignorant twits (COVID is the flu, every doctor is for lockdown, Trump knows more than Fauci on COVID-19) apply TDS/Orange Man Bad labels to people who correctly observe the complete idiocy of this Administrations handling of this pandemic, and literally denying that we are getting worse because "more tests equal more cases" while ignoring elevated positive rates and hospitalization. To think there aren't significant consequences of how this Administration has literally fought against mitigation strategies is the true Trump Derangement Syndrome, i.e., observing his consequences and actions in a completely ridiculous and frankly ignorant way.

But I guess CEOs have no effect on companies, QBs have no impact on football teams, and Generals have no hand in the strategies the military takes. It's just about the people underneath and their own predispositions. I've been told I too can use the same argument strategy.

[DocSavage87]

My own thought is that all of the attributes of the country we value - its strong anti-authoritarian streak, its cultural and ethnic diversity (this is the most pluralistic nation in the world) - all go in dead reverse when we are faced with a phenomenon in which compliance with established authority and obedience to social dictates is required.

GR, you can keep writing this (as do I), but I don't think it's going to make a dent among the TDS/Orange Man Bad crowd who firmly believe that if only there were a different President, then Americans would be magically compliant, stop eating junk food, stop smoking, start working out, would lose weight, stop venerating the individual and start giving a damn about each other.  And the seas would recede.  Or so I'm told.

I've been told by others (favorite tactic of the Idiot In Chief) that straw men arguments are the last resort of those who want to see the other side in the worst possible light.  Maybe I should believe that MAGA = QAnon and/or white supremacists.  You look at twitter and you see ignorant twits (COVID is the flu, every doctor is for lockdown, Trump knows more than Fauci on COVID-19) apply TDS/Orange Man Bad labels to people who correctly observe the complete idiocy of this Administrations handling of this pandemic, and literally denying that we are getting worse because "more tests equal more cases" while ignoring elevated positive rates and hospitalization. To think there aren't significant consequences of how this Administration has literally fought against mitigation strategies is the true Trump Derangement Syndrome, i.e., observing his consequences and actions in a completely ridiculous and frankly ignorant way.

But I guess CEOs have no effect on companies, QBs have no impact on football teams, and Generals have no hand in the strategies the military takes. It's just about the people underneath and their own predispositions. I've been told I too can use the same argument strategy.