[jonnyss]

Plun’s tweet summed up her and Stanford
Transcript please on Osborne?    I have no clue

Sabrina not possible

Diggins admitted

re: osborne

sure, as a sophomore, she'd be the #2 point guard behind kiana. as a junior, she'd be a replacement for kiana of about equal talent. jana's a good player, but she's not charisma, who, barring injury, is likely to be a first or second team all-american and first-round wnba pick.

link says osborne had all A's - at least into her junior year.

link says osborne had an offer from stanford. if true, it implies that, of osborne and jump, whoever committed first got the spot (as we didn't want 3 guards and only one big in the class).

checking google, jump committed on feb 16, 2018, belibi committed on may 18, prechtel committed on jun 8, 2018. osborne was talking about her interest in stanford through the summer and did not commit to ucla until sept 5. that could certainly mean that admissions turned her down on sept 5 because of standardized test scores (not likely to be grades at that time of year)

but my take, without evidence, is that hannah "jumped" on her offer, stanford wanted 2 bigs; so it was either haley or charisma. i'm guessing charisma kept the option of stanford open until haley told stanford she was likely coming - at which point stanford told charisma, and charisma picked ucla. or until stanford told charisma they would wait for haley as long as it took for haley to decide (which ended up being the week after official signing day because of local wildfires). at that point charisma gave up and picked ucla.

i thought at the time, and still think, that with so many mcdonald's aa athletes (like osborne) interested, stanford should not have offered hannah jump so early. hannah is local and very smart. seemed to me that hannah would reasonably have waited until the fall for stanford to decide if they had space for her. after all, if stanford didn't offer, she had the grades to go to yale, harvard, princeton or anywhere else in the pac-12.

re: ones that got away, the biggest one for me is local product, danielle robinson, mitty class of 2007. she and jeanette pohlen were the top 2 high school players in california that year. the hs championship was televised, i watched, and both were amazing: jeanette more the outside shooter, danielle the true point guard, super quick with unstoppable drives to the basket. danielle really wanted to come to stanford. i don't believe plum and ionescu were close in terms of grades, but robinson had good enough grades (can't find them online; but her college gpa was 3.5 putting her on all-academic teams) that she - and, presumably, tara -thought she would get in; she was a star at oklahoma and has been a star in the wnba (of stanford players, only nneka and chiney have done as well in the wnba). she was very disappointed to be dinged by admissions. i think current admissions would take her, but admissions at that time was more restrictive for top athletes. if you recall, we came very close to a national title in 2011, losing to texas a&m by one point in the final 4. that team had nneka, kayla, and jeanette pohlen - but jeanette had an ankle injury in that game. we would have won easily with danielle at point guard.

courtney paris also was local, wanted to come to stanford and ended up at oklahoma; same issue with decent grades but tough admissions at the time. but paris wasn't publicly talking up stanford the way robinson was. plus we had jayne appel and therefore didn't miss paris much.

i have followed stanford women's basketball since 1990, and danielle robinson and charisma osborne are the 2 players i have been truly (and vocally) disappointed to lose. (of course i wanted diggins; but i never got my hopes up to get her over n.d., her home town school)

[jonnyss]

Plun’s tweet summed up her and Stanford
Transcript please on Osborne?    I have no clue

Sabrina not possible

Diggins admitted

re: osborne

sure, as a sophomore, she'd be the #2 point guard behind kiana. as a junior, she'd be a replacement for kiana of about equal talent. jana's a good player, but she's not charisma, who, barring injury, is likely to be a first or second team all-american and first-round wnba pick.

link says osborne had all A's - at least into her junior year.

link says osborne had an offer from stanford. if true, it implies that, of osborne and jump, whoever committed first got the spot (as we didn't want 3 guards and only one big in the class).

checking google, jump committed on feb 16, 2018, belibi committed on may 18, prechtel committed on jun 8, 2018. osborne was talking about her interest in stanford through the summer and did not commit to ucla until sept 5. that could certainly mean that admissions turned her down on sept 5 because of standardized test scores (not likely to be grades at that time of year)

but my take, without evidence, is that hannah "jumped" on her offer, stanford wanted 2 bigs; so it was either haley or charisma. i'm guessing charisma kept the option of stanford open until haley told stanford she was likely coming - at which point stanford told charisma, and charisma picked ucla. or until stanford told charisma they would wait for haley as long as it took for haley to decide (which ended up being the week after official signing day because of local wildfires). at that point charisma gave up and picked ucla.

i thought at the time, and still think, that with so many mcdonald's aa athletes (like osborne) interested, stanford should not have offered hannah jump so early. hannah is local and very smart. seemed to me that hannah would reasonably have waited until the fall for stanford to decide if they had space for her. after all, if stanford didn't offer, she had the grades to go to yale, harvard, princeton or anywhere else in the pac-12.

re: ones that got away, the biggest one for me is local product, danielle robinson, mitty class of 2007. she and jeanette pohlen were the top 2 high school players in california that year. the hs championship was televised, i watched, and both were amazing: jeanette more the outside shooter, danielle the true point guard, super quick with unstoppable drives to the basket. danielle really wanted to come to stanford. i don't believe plum and ionescu were close in terms of grades, but robinson had good enough grades (can't find them online; but her college gpa was 3.5 putting her on all-academic teams) that she - and, presumably, tara -thought she would get in; she was a star at oklahoma and has been a star in the wnba (of stanford players, only nneka and chiney have done as well in the wnba). she was very disappointed to be dinged by admissions. i think current admissions would take her, but admissions at that time was more restrictive for top athletes. if you recall, we came very close to a national title in 2011, losing to texas a&m by one point in the final 4. that team had nneka, kayla, and jeanette pohlen - but jeanette had an ankle injury in that game. we would have won easily with danielle at point guard.

courtney paris also was local, wanted to come to stanford and ended up at oklahoma; same issue with decent grades but tough admissions at the time. but paris wasn't publicly talking up stanford the way robinson was. plus we had jayne appel and therefore didn't miss paris much.

i have followed stanford women's basketball since 1990, and danielle robinson and charisma osborne are the 2 players i have been truly (and vocally) disappointed to lose. (of course i wanted diggins; but i never got my hopes up to get her over n.d., her home town school)