03-13-2021, 12:12 PM
I agree overall with your criteria, in particular more emphasis on 3-point shooters. I would say that Haase has recruited abroad. As for recruiting guys that will stay, I agree also, but I don't fault Haase as much for the attrition we've seen the last few years. Who could predict that Ryan would transfer out after one year in a hissy fit? Same for Terry, who might still be on campus had Covid not hit. ZW is the only one-and-done player he's brought in, and that didn't go very well, I'll admit. Again, though, hard to blame the staff for bringing in one guy with ZW's profile. IMO, at least. I'm with you on player development. Maybe if this staff were stronger in that area, not so many folks would have left early. Hard to know.
Firing and hiring always seems so crystal clear in hindsight. To many, I think, Haase seemed like a decent hire. I'd add that I'm not exactly confident in Muir's ability to bring in a coach that will stick, but then again many a good AD have made the "wrong" hire, so it's a crap shoot. This is not to argue for retaining Haase; just jaded as to whether a new hire will provide the relief we all hope it will.
Firing and hiring always seems so crystal clear in hindsight. To many, I think, Haase seemed like a decent hire. I'd add that I'm not exactly confident in Muir's ability to bring in a coach that will stick, but then again many a good AD have made the "wrong" hire, so it's a crap shoot. This is not to argue for retaining Haase; just jaded as to whether a new hire will provide the relief we all hope it will.
(03-13-2021, 10:10 AM)lex24 Wrote:(03-11-2021, 04:25 PM)burger Wrote: If anyone thinks that Stanford's offense will get better with new players next year, consider this:
In 9 seasons as a head coach, Jerod Haase's offenses have been in the top 100 in adjusted efficiency a grand total of once. And that season, at UAB, they were ranked #100 exactly. Numbers here (it's "ADJO" which is offensive efficiency adjusted for opponents): https://barttorvik.com/coach-history.php...od%20Haase
At Stanford, the rankings have been 160, 108, 215, 141, and 130.
Johnny Dawkins made the top 100 in offense 5 times.
Haase is just not a good offensive coach.
(03-13-2021, 10:10 AM)lex24 Wrote: [quote="burger" pid='310127' dateline='1615505101']
If anyone thinks that Stanford's offense will get better with new players next year, consider this:
In 9 seasons as a head coach, Jerod Haase's offenses have been in the top 100 in adjusted efficiency a grand total of once. And that season, at UAB, they were ranked #100 exactly. Numbers here (it's "ADJO" which is offensive efficiency adjusted for opponents): https://barttorvik.com/coach-history.php...od%20Haase
At Stanford, the rankings have been 160, 108, 215, 141, and 130.
Johnny Dawkins made the top 100 in offense 5 times.
Haase is just not a good offensive coach.
But I thought Dawkins was a lousy coach. Stanford basketball has been irrelevant for some time. One and done era doesn’t help. Yes, this was a bad offensive team. Which happens when you can’t shoot and have almost no one that creates. Davis hurt most of year and them pfffft. Wills the same. Williams was a bust.
What do you want in a new coach? Be specific. What style of play? What type of player should he recruit. Give us programs to emulate.
Cause just bringing in the flavor of the month does nothing. They need someone that understands the landscape and can determine how best to win at Stanford.
To me that’s recruiting guys that are likely to stay and mature. That’s relying on upperclassmen. Not guys that will leave. Player development key. Size and the ability to hit threes. An offense that does not rely on recruiting a bunch of guys that can beat people off the dribble. And has a low post scoring presence. Recruiting should be international. I repeat - look at Wisconsin, Iowa, Gonzaga. (Different styles, but all three tend to keep players in the systems. Not many one and dones).