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Shaw is without a doubt Stanford's best coach in the last 50 years but I don't think he belongs on this list until he wins a conference title with his own recruits.

Go look at the list. How many PAC-12 championships did Telford win?  How about Rich Rodriguez? Look at several others and tell me how many Power 5 conference championships they won. With anybody’s recruits. The list, quite frankly is a joke. Bobby Petrino?  Really….

Never said Shaw was the only coach I didn't think belonged on the list. I just happen to hold him in less high regard than many on this board.

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Shaw is without a doubt Stanford's best coach in the last 50 years but I don't think he belongs on this list until he wins a conference title with his own recruits.

Go look at the list. How many PAC-12 championships did Telford win?  How about Rich Rodriguez? Look at several others and tell me how many Power 5 conference championships they won. With anybody’s recruits. The list, quite frankly is a joke. Bobby Petrino?  Really….

Never said Shaw was the only coach I didn't think belonged on the list. I just happen to hold him in less high regard than many on this board.