[Mick]

I agree with those above me, and would add that so much about coaching is about fit, which changes both in place and time.  Harbaugh was a perfect fit for Stanford in 2007; by the time he left, less so.  Shaw has been a perfect fit for Stanford over the last decade, but I'm not sure he would be a great fit elsewhere (look at what happened when Willingham went to Notre Dame and later Washington), and I'm not sure how effectvie he would have been coming in after Teevens or Harris.

Also, TBD how Shaw will do from here.  I'm more optimistic than most long term, though in the short term I see a bumpy ride.

BC

Guys, can we just be frank here:  Shaw would NOT be a good coach anywhere else.  Could you imagine his recruiting practices "working" anywhere else?  He relies so much on the institutional draw of Stanford and recruiting "Stanford men" - at least that's my impression - that it would be a thud elsewhere.

Also, a good Xs and Os coach at School A, or a good motivating coach at School B, or a good player development coach at School C should all be able to succeed when coming to Stanford, largely because those attributes should play well to the school's natural draw.  I mean, Harbaugh succeeded here, as did Willingham, Green, and Walsh.  Not all of them succeeded elsewhere in college (though Harbs has been pretty good wherever).  

Having said that, I agree that Shaw is a good fit at Stanford (could be much better with a couple changes) - better than many other coaches we've seen in the ranks (including Coach O, Wlat, and others).

Vandy.  Duke.  Northwestern.  Ivies...  Not sure where else.  But I agree that he's optimized at Stanford, and none of those other schools will come close to paying him what he's making at Stanford.

[Mick]

I agree with those above me, and would add that so much about coaching is about fit, which changes both in place and time.  Harbaugh was a perfect fit for Stanford in 2007; by the time he left, less so.  Shaw has been a perfect fit for Stanford over the last decade, but I'm not sure he would be a great fit elsewhere (look at what happened when Willingham went to Notre Dame and later Washington), and I'm not sure how effectvie he would have been coming in after Teevens or Harris.

Also, TBD how Shaw will do from here.  I'm more optimistic than most long term, though in the short term I see a bumpy ride.

BC

Guys, can we just be frank here:  Shaw would NOT be a good coach anywhere else.  Could you imagine his recruiting practices "working" anywhere else?  He relies so much on the institutional draw of Stanford and recruiting "Stanford men" - at least that's my impression - that it would be a thud elsewhere.

Also, a good Xs and Os coach at School A, or a good motivating coach at School B, or a good player development coach at School C should all be able to succeed when coming to Stanford, largely because those attributes should play well to the school's natural draw.  I mean, Harbaugh succeeded here, as did Willingham, Green, and Walsh.  Not all of them succeeded elsewhere in college (though Harbs has been pretty good wherever).  

Having said that, I agree that Shaw is a good fit at Stanford (could be much better with a couple changes) - better than many other coaches we've seen in the ranks (including Coach O, Wlat, and others).

Vandy.  Duke.  Northwestern.  Ivies...  Not sure where else.  But I agree that he's optimized at Stanford, and none of those other schools will come close to paying him what he's making at Stanford.