[BigJohn043]

Bingo Teejers. No speed, no separation. Plodding. Boring. No place for Jones and Peat to go. Pressure with a three man rush. Kickoff out of bounds. I miss Harballs.

I miss Harball's recruits (and staff).

You are aware that Michigan went 2-4 last year and has lost its most recent bowl games four consecutive times in a row?

Facts.

It’s difficult to win consistently. It’s difficult to recruit consistently. It’s difficult to win bowl games. 

This mythical Harbaugh character has won only one bowl game at Michigan - his first - and it wasn’t a NYE6 bowl game, then he lost four consecutive bowl games, then he had a record so poor they didn’t qualify for a bowl game, and yet somehow the person “mired in a quicksand of its own making,” the one “not going out with a bang but with a whimper,” is somehow Coach Shaw? And you are so convinced “1-4 Bowl Game Harbaugh” would have done better?

If it is so easy to consistently hire a Fangio, a Shaw, a Hamilton and a (Randy) Hart, why didn't 1-4 Bowl Game Harbaugh do that in the last 5 years so he could actually win a bowl game?

FWIW, I think the difference between the Stanford and Michigan Harbaugh is that he isn't bringing quality assistants.  I think the word that he is crazy is out and no one wants to work with him.

But the short answer is I would much rather take a chance on a new coach knowing that it might fail because at least I would have hope.  With Shaw I have literally no hope.  We are going to suck until the day he leaves or is fired.  We will keep hearing the same BS about execution, we will keep getting delay of game and no one will be able to run the offense unless they are a senior.

It is just depressing.

Heck, at least we had some hope that Teavans and Harris would work out.....

[BigJohn043]

Bingo Teejers. No speed, no separation. Plodding. Boring. No place for Jones and Peat to go. Pressure with a three man rush. Kickoff out of bounds. I miss Harballs.

I miss Harball's recruits (and staff).

You are aware that Michigan went 2-4 last year and has lost its most recent bowl games four consecutive times in a row?

Facts.

It’s difficult to win consistently. It’s difficult to recruit consistently. It’s difficult to win bowl games. 

This mythical Harbaugh character has won only one bowl game at Michigan - his first - and it wasn’t a NYE6 bowl game, then he lost four consecutive bowl games, then he had a record so poor they didn’t qualify for a bowl game, and yet somehow the person “mired in a quicksand of its own making,” the one “not going out with a bang but with a whimper,” is somehow Coach Shaw? And you are so convinced “1-4 Bowl Game Harbaugh” would have done better?

If it is so easy to consistently hire a Fangio, a Shaw, a Hamilton and a (Randy) Hart, why didn't 1-4 Bowl Game Harbaugh do that in the last 5 years so he could actually win a bowl game?

FWIW, I think the difference between the Stanford and Michigan Harbaugh is that he isn't bringing quality assistants.  I think the word that he is crazy is out and no one wants to work with him.

But the short answer is I would much rather take a chance on a new coach knowing that it might fail because at least I would have hope.  With Shaw I have literally no hope.  We are going to suck until the day he leaves or is fired.  We will keep hearing the same BS about execution, we will keep getting delay of game and no one will be able to run the offense unless they are a senior.

It is just depressing.

Heck, at least we had some hope that Teavans and Harris would work out.....