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Goose, I think your example of strength metric is not a great proxy for on-field performance.  First, reps in a weight room don't always translate to "functional strength" or explosiveness.  Isolating muscle groups for magnitude and reps is great for bodybuilding, but I think Turley and many other high-level coaches have moved on to full-body motions and then isolating and improving weak links in a player's kinetic chain.  I seem to recall players not acing the Combine workouts and yet turning in effective careers.  Conversely, there have been many Combine studs who didn't pan out on the field.

Secondly, we don't even know that the weights/reps in the Stanford S&C room are even at the same level where they used to be.  Injuries can be a big setback to players, and there have been many injuries.  The cumulative effect of injuries over a several-year college football career can be significant.

I still don't think Tavita has ever coached up a QB at Stanford.  Remember Hogan retooled his throwing motion in one NFL offseason after he was drafted after no one at Stanford seemed to touch it all his years here.  If Tavita is a hotshot OC waiting to break out, he'd be interviewing and getting jobs at other places.  I can't imagine him not wanting to get experience elsewhere and making a real name for himself if he were that good.  If a better position than Stanford OC/QB coach opens up at Stanford, it's not as if he wouldn't be near the top of the list for consideration if he wanted to come back.

I could be wrong, but I feel like the results on the field bear out my opinions.

I'm no fan of Pritchard as OC, but I think he coached up QBs.  

Hogan was a 4th year QB by the time Pritchard was promoted to QB coach.  Hogan started that year pretty shaky (understandably due to his dad's illness and death), but Hogan had a good end of 2014 and a great 2015 season, both of which were better than he had shown in prior years.  I certainly don't blame Pritchard for declining to retool Hogan's throwing motion at that late stage of his college career, while Hogan also was dealing with personal issues.  

I also think Tavita coached up Chryst and Costello.  Those two QBs aren't ideal examples because injuries derailed both of them, but they both improved dramatically from the time they arrived through the time they were healthy.  

I guess Burns and West are counter examples, but not every QB will pan out, even with good coaching.  I categorize those more as recruiting failures (which also is on the QB coach, so maybe the selection of West is a demerit against Pritchard, though the selection of Burns predated Pritchard's promotion).  

Really the key to Pritchard's overall grade as a QB coach is how you look at Mills and McKee.  Both seem reasonably likely to pan out as NFL QBs, but maybe you conclude that they were so talented that they didn't need a good QB coach (or maybe that they were so taltented that they overcame a bad one).  I don't have a good enough eye to make a judgment there.

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Goose, I think your example of strength metric is not a great proxy for on-field performance.  First, reps in a weight room don't always translate to "functional strength" or explosiveness.  Isolating muscle groups for magnitude and reps is great for bodybuilding, but I think Turley and many other high-level coaches have moved on to full-body motions and then isolating and improving weak links in a player's kinetic chain.  I seem to recall players not acing the Combine workouts and yet turning in effective careers.  Conversely, there have been many Combine studs who didn't pan out on the field.

Secondly, we don't even know that the weights/reps in the Stanford S&C room are even at the same level where they used to be.  Injuries can be a big setback to players, and there have been many injuries.  The cumulative effect of injuries over a several-year college football career can be significant.

I still don't think Tavita has ever coached up a QB at Stanford.  Remember Hogan retooled his throwing motion in one NFL offseason after he was drafted after no one at Stanford seemed to touch it all his years here.  If Tavita is a hotshot OC waiting to break out, he'd be interviewing and getting jobs at other places.  I can't imagine him not wanting to get experience elsewhere and making a real name for himself if he were that good.  If a better position than Stanford OC/QB coach opens up at Stanford, it's not as if he wouldn't be near the top of the list for consideration if he wanted to come back.

I could be wrong, but I feel like the results on the field bear out my opinions.

I'm no fan of Pritchard as OC, but I think he coached up QBs.  

Hogan was a 4th year QB by the time Pritchard was promoted to QB coach.  Hogan started that year pretty shaky (understandably due to his dad's illness and death), but Hogan had a good end of 2014 and a great 2015 season, both of which were better than he had shown in prior years.  I certainly don't blame Pritchard for declining to retool Hogan's throwing motion at that late stage of his college career, while Hogan also was dealing with personal issues.  

I also think Tavita coached up Chryst and Costello.  Those two QBs aren't ideal examples because injuries derailed both of them, but they both improved dramatically from the time they arrived through the time they were healthy.  

I guess Burns and West are counter examples, but not every QB will pan out, even with good coaching.  I categorize those more as recruiting failures (which also is on the QB coach, so maybe the selection of West is a demerit against Pritchard, though the selection of Burns predated Pritchard's promotion).  

Really the key to Pritchard's overall grade as a QB coach is how you look at Mills and McKee.  Both seem reasonably likely to pan out as NFL QBs, but maybe you conclude that they were so talented that they didn't need a good QB coach (or maybe that they were so taltented that they overcame a bad one).  I don't have a good enough eye to make a judgment there.