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I think the results on the field - i.e., the O under Shaw while Tavita is the titular OC - preclude Tavita from getting any interest from a P5 program.  If you're arguing that Tavita should go to a lower division team and shine there . . . okay.  But it's tough to expect a P5 coordinator to voluntarily take on a similar job at a lower level.  That would be a big roll of the dice professionally to have to rationalize (and the roll only comes up box cars if Tavita turns the lower division O into a powerhouse).  So yeah, in theory, that's a possibly circuitous career move for Tavita.  Just think it's one few coaches would voluntarily take, regardless of how confident they were in their abilities.


The bottom line is that it's impossible to tell how good (or bad) an OC Tavita is because Shaw calls all the shots.

I think the "bottom line" you cite (which I totally agree with) is the main reason Tavita isn't going to get any interest from another P5 program, not just the result on the field. However, I am pretty sure Shaw could get him a good job in the NFL, which from my point of view is the most logical target for him. It can be regarded as a step up and it would let him hone his craft. He is a coordinator at a P5 school. The next step up in the college ranks would be HC someplace (not P5), which he isn't going to get from where he is now. I have been saying this for years, but it is clear it isn't happening. Why? Maybe Tavita is perfectly content where he is, and maybe that's not bad, but if it were me I would not rely on being an OC at Stanford for the rest of my career.

[Goose]

I think the results on the field - i.e., the O under Shaw while Tavita is the titular OC - preclude Tavita from getting any interest from a P5 program.  If you're arguing that Tavita should go to a lower division team and shine there . . . okay.  But it's tough to expect a P5 coordinator to voluntarily take on a similar job at a lower level.  That would be a big roll of the dice professionally to have to rationalize (and the roll only comes up box cars if Tavita turns the lower division O into a powerhouse).  So yeah, in theory, that's a possibly circuitous career move for Tavita.  Just think it's one few coaches would voluntarily take, regardless of how confident they were in their abilities.


The bottom line is that it's impossible to tell how good (or bad) an OC Tavita is because Shaw calls all the shots.

I think the "bottom line" you cite (which I totally agree with) is the main reason Tavita isn't going to get any interest from another P5 program, not just the result on the field. However, I am pretty sure Shaw could get him a good job in the NFL, which from my point of view is the most logical target for him. It can be regarded as a step up and it would let him hone his craft. He is a coordinator at a P5 school. The next step up in the college ranks would be HC someplace (not P5), which he isn't going to get from where he is now. I have been saying this for years, but it is clear it isn't happening. Why? Maybe Tavita is perfectly content where he is, and maybe that's not bad, but if it were me I would not rely on being an OC at Stanford for the rest of my career.