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Thought folks on here would be interested in John Hollinger's take on Harrison Ingram's NBA draft prospects. Hollinger writes for The Athletic and is a former VP of Basketball Ops for the Memphis Grizzlies. I'm starting to think Ingram is a one-and-done. If he's a lottery pick, it's a no-brainer. But even as a later first round pick it's worth doing in my view. And my editorial aside is that this team is so poorly coached that Ingram isn't particularly going to improve his draft stock with another year. The write-up is below:

PROSPECT OF THE WEEK: Harrison Ingram, freshman SF, Stanford

I was hoping to have Memphis’ Jalen Duren in this spot, but my trip to Nashville to see his Tigers take on Tennessee proved fruitless when the game was canceled shortly before tip-off.

However, I was able to see Stanford’s Harrison Ingram on Sunday afternoon here in Vegas before heading over to the G League showcase. Despite an otherwise moribund effort from his Stanford team in a snoozy 60-53 loss to Texas, Ingram showed why he has fans in the late first round with his performance. Ingram had 15 points, seven rebounds, three assists and three steals in 31 minutes while serving as his team’s de facto point guard even though he often matches up with threes and fours.

At 6-foot-7 (ish) with a solid frame comparable to Jimmy Butler or Solomon Hill, Ingram has the basic nuts and bolts of NBA small forward viability despite lacking superior athleticism. He’s comfortable handling the ball and already capable of some advanced reads as a passer, ones which likely would have proven more fruitful in the company of more talented teammates. (Stanford is KenPom.com’s 98th-ranked offense; Ingram is its only player with a PER above 20.)

As a shooter, he’s made 31.6 percent of his 3s and 81.6 percent from the line. Eye-test-wise, the shot looks … OK. He lines up his set shot with his right foot far ahead of his left — not quite in Cameron Payne territory but definitely a bit side-saddle — and the result could be a lot of foot-on-the-line 2s. However, he seems comfortably getting into his midrange bag off the dribble, something he’s required to do a fair amount for this team. Overall, one might describe his shooting as adequate.

Defensively, he’s not a hugely dynamic or athletic presence, but he seems fine enough. He’s not a stopper, but Ingram’s size and IQ should enable him to guard NBA wings and perhaps play some small-ball four.

If all this sounds a bit lukewarm, keep in mind that Ingram is a freshman who will be 19 on draft night. He has a pretty clear pathway to plus outcomes as an NBA role player at a position where teams are constantly in need of talent. That may not be enough to get him in the lottery, but in a college season where several prospects have disappointed, Ingram has lived up to the billing as a potential first-rounder.

Ooofta. I wish we could drop another coach in right now. "Moribund", "more fruitful in the company of more talented players". I taped and watched the whole thing again, and it's becoming maddening. So long as they aren't winded, leave Ingram and Frenchie on the floor and tell Frenchie  not to dribble but shooting is just fine, tell Delaire that he's a great player, but will be greater if he doesn't try to dribble himself into a better position and doing so will nail him to the bench, set up at least 5 clean shots for Jones per game, for God's sake don't inbound into the corner, tell Taitz to play defense or see the bench, tell Keefe he must be able to score more and shoot FT's to stay on the court, make Angel the first wing off the bench and tell him to shoot.

Other thoughts, Murrell can shoot but is mediocre at best on D, Silva is playing more like a college than hs player now, I feel badly for Kisunas as he's playing better than ever but can't shoot or rb like Fernchie and doesn't play positional D like Keefe, O'Conell is same as he ever was for better or for worse.

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Thought folks on here would be interested in John Hollinger's take on Harrison Ingram's NBA draft prospects. Hollinger writes for The Athletic and is a former VP of Basketball Ops for the Memphis Grizzlies. I'm starting to think Ingram is a one-and-done. If he's a lottery pick, it's a no-brainer. But even as a later first round pick it's worth doing in my view. And my editorial aside is that this team is so poorly coached that Ingram isn't particularly going to improve his draft stock with another year. The write-up is below:

PROSPECT OF THE WEEK: Harrison Ingram, freshman SF, Stanford

I was hoping to have Memphis’ Jalen Duren in this spot, but my trip to Nashville to see his Tigers take on Tennessee proved fruitless when the game was canceled shortly before tip-off.

However, I was able to see Stanford’s Harrison Ingram on Sunday afternoon here in Vegas before heading over to the G League showcase. Despite an otherwise moribund effort from his Stanford team in a snoozy 60-53 loss to Texas, Ingram showed why he has fans in the late first round with his performance. Ingram had 15 points, seven rebounds, three assists and three steals in 31 minutes while serving as his team’s de facto point guard even though he often matches up with threes and fours.

At 6-foot-7 (ish) with a solid frame comparable to Jimmy Butler or Solomon Hill, Ingram has the basic nuts and bolts of NBA small forward viability despite lacking superior athleticism. He’s comfortable handling the ball and already capable of some advanced reads as a passer, ones which likely would have proven more fruitful in the company of more talented teammates. (Stanford is KenPom.com’s 98th-ranked offense; Ingram is its only player with a PER above 20.)

As a shooter, he’s made 31.6 percent of his 3s and 81.6 percent from the line. Eye-test-wise, the shot looks … OK. He lines up his set shot with his right foot far ahead of his left — not quite in Cameron Payne territory but definitely a bit side-saddle — and the result could be a lot of foot-on-the-line 2s. However, he seems comfortably getting into his midrange bag off the dribble, something he’s required to do a fair amount for this team. Overall, one might describe his shooting as adequate.

Defensively, he’s not a hugely dynamic or athletic presence, but he seems fine enough. He’s not a stopper, but Ingram’s size and IQ should enable him to guard NBA wings and perhaps play some small-ball four.

If all this sounds a bit lukewarm, keep in mind that Ingram is a freshman who will be 19 on draft night. He has a pretty clear pathway to plus outcomes as an NBA role player at a position where teams are constantly in need of talent. That may not be enough to get him in the lottery, but in a college season where several prospects have disappointed, Ingram has lived up to the billing as a potential first-rounder.

Ooofta. I wish we could drop another coach in right now. "Moribund", "more fruitful in the company of more talented players". I taped and watched the whole thing again, and it's becoming maddening. So long as they aren't winded, leave Ingram and Frenchie on the floor and tell Frenchie  not to dribble but shooting is just fine, tell Delaire that he's a great player, but will be greater if he doesn't try to dribble himself into a better position and doing so will nail him to the bench, set up at least 5 clean shots for Jones per game, for God's sake don't inbound into the corner, tell Taitz to play defense or see the bench, tell Keefe he must be able to score more and shoot FT's to stay on the court, make Angel the first wing off the bench and tell him to shoot.

Other thoughts, Murrell can shoot but is mediocre at best on D, Silva is playing more like a college than hs player now, I feel badly for Kisunas as he's playing better than ever but can't shoot or rb like Fernchie and doesn't play positional D like Keefe, O'Conell is same as he ever was for better or for worse.