[lex24]

Wife's in Salt Lake. LDS take family very seriously. Stanford could be 12-0 and he would be there. Got to be at least 25 years old. Good luck to him.

You and Goose are talking out you-know-where in being so conclusive re: what motivates Reid.

I suspect none of us on this board have set down with Reid and asked him to explain himself. It is possible he is leaving solely because he fears Stanford will not have a good year next year. However, it is clear there are many other reasons that have been presented that are at least as plausible if not more so. From my point of view, going to another school to allow you to live with your wife and get another degree is much more attractive than staying at a school where you have spent the last five years that is far from home. This all begs the question about him getting admitted for another degree at Stanford and whether a scholarship is even on offer. It is therefore obvious there are lots of good reasons to go other that what the teams record next year may be.

If Reid plays football at some other college that is pretty damning.

As McEnroe said, "you can't be serious". In the presence of many plausible reasons that such a move makes eminent sense, doing so is somehow damning (of the Stanford program). That simply makes no sense. That logic says that anybody who leaves for any perfectly good reason with eligibility remaining is "damning".  Such an assertion makes no sense IMHO.

I think that everybody would agree that the expectation that the Stanford team will not have a great record next year could certainly discourage some players from returning. However, asserting it is a controlling or substantial factor in the presence of many other definite factors is very dubious.

How about this:  will you at least acknowledge that the number of Stanford football players with eligibility remaining leaving Stanford (for whatever reason) has spiked under Shaw?  And do you think that spike is also true for kids who played (and I mean got meaningful PT) at Stanford and then opted to play another year at another university?

Yes, it has spiked.  Of course, the transfer portal didn’t exist until 2018.  So, it’s an irrelevant data point.  

And Cardcrimson - no thread that even touches upon Stanford football (and even those that don’t) are immune from the Shawbash Cannonball…..

[lex24]

Wife's in Salt Lake. LDS take family very seriously. Stanford could be 12-0 and he would be there. Got to be at least 25 years old. Good luck to him.

You and Goose are talking out you-know-where in being so conclusive re: what motivates Reid.

I suspect none of us on this board have set down with Reid and asked him to explain himself. It is possible he is leaving solely because he fears Stanford will not have a good year next year. However, it is clear there are many other reasons that have been presented that are at least as plausible if not more so. From my point of view, going to another school to allow you to live with your wife and get another degree is much more attractive than staying at a school where you have spent the last five years that is far from home. This all begs the question about him getting admitted for another degree at Stanford and whether a scholarship is even on offer. It is therefore obvious there are lots of good reasons to go other that what the teams record next year may be.

If Reid plays football at some other college that is pretty damning.

As McEnroe said, "you can't be serious". In the presence of many plausible reasons that such a move makes eminent sense, doing so is somehow damning (of the Stanford program). That simply makes no sense. That logic says that anybody who leaves for any perfectly good reason with eligibility remaining is "damning".  Such an assertion makes no sense IMHO.

I think that everybody would agree that the expectation that the Stanford team will not have a great record next year could certainly discourage some players from returning. However, asserting it is a controlling or substantial factor in the presence of many other definite factors is very dubious.

How about this:  will you at least acknowledge that the number of Stanford football players with eligibility remaining leaving Stanford (for whatever reason) has spiked under Shaw?  And do you think that spike is also true for kids who played (and I mean got meaningful PT) at Stanford and then opted to play another year at another university?

Yes, it has spiked.  Of course, the transfer portal didn’t exist until 2018.  So, it’s an irrelevant data point.  

And Cardcrimson - no thread that even touches upon Stanford football (and even those that don’t) are immune from the Shawbash Cannonball…..