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Yeah, why bother with screening for shooters. The Warriors never do it, they just have Curry and Thompson create on their own, right?

Yeah, the Cardinal have guys with the handle and take-to-the-rack ability that Curry has.  Hell, even Klay is better/stronger than anyone Stanford has (even in relative terms).  Plus, the Cardinal have all kinds of guys who can make treys from 3, 5, and even 8 feet beyond the arc.

Oh wait . . . they don't?

Lastly, if you watch the Cardinal, they do screen and try to open up shooters at the three line.  Perhaps not enough to your liking - and that could be a fair critique, given the overall O of this team - but it's not some magic ingredient that will turn this group into a good offensive team.

I'm afraid your sarcasm detector didn't fire. The Warriors set zillions of screens, constantly. That even despite Curry's ability to beat people off the dribble. That was my point. Screening for shooters is hardly the product of a bygone era

Right, but the effectiveness of "screening for shooters" depends on the capabilities of the shooters and the team at large.  

I wish a new coach could come in right now and instill the O that you think will change this team.  Or maybe even see Haase implement a "screen for Jones" premium on all offensive possessions.  Maybe you'd be proven correct that the O would noticeably improve. I'm just not seeing it.  I see switches everywhere and an inability to capitalize because Stanford doesn't have anyone who can beat people off the dribble . . . even supposed "mismatches."

I think Raynaud can beat his man off the dribble...and hopefully doesn't fumble it. :) I also think we could try 5-10 screens per game. True, there's no Curry to use a screen with his dribble, but he uses plenty without the dribble, and just relies on the the pass off the screen.   Curious, how would you describe Haase's offense?

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Yeah, why bother with screening for shooters. The Warriors never do it, they just have Curry and Thompson create on their own, right?

Yeah, the Cardinal have guys with the handle and take-to-the-rack ability that Curry has.  Hell, even Klay is better/stronger than anyone Stanford has (even in relative terms).  Plus, the Cardinal have all kinds of guys who can make treys from 3, 5, and even 8 feet beyond the arc.

Oh wait . . . they don't?

Lastly, if you watch the Cardinal, they do screen and try to open up shooters at the three line.  Perhaps not enough to your liking - and that could be a fair critique, given the overall O of this team - but it's not some magic ingredient that will turn this group into a good offensive team.

I'm afraid your sarcasm detector didn't fire. The Warriors set zillions of screens, constantly. That even despite Curry's ability to beat people off the dribble. That was my point. Screening for shooters is hardly the product of a bygone era

Right, but the effectiveness of "screening for shooters" depends on the capabilities of the shooters and the team at large.  

I wish a new coach could come in right now and instill the O that you think will change this team.  Or maybe even see Haase implement a "screen for Jones" premium on all offensive possessions.  Maybe you'd be proven correct that the O would noticeably improve. I'm just not seeing it.  I see switches everywhere and an inability to capitalize because Stanford doesn't have anyone who can beat people off the dribble . . . even supposed "mismatches."

I think Raynaud can beat his man off the dribble...and hopefully doesn't fumble it. :) I also think we could try 5-10 screens per game. True, there's no Curry to use a screen with his dribble, but he uses plenty without the dribble, and just relies on the the pass off the screen.   Curious, how would you describe Haase's offense?